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Nobody's buying it, man. PUA techniques are for the socially awkward the same way blown glass pipes are for tobacco smokers. What people claim and what the vast

• wpietri 13y ago
  Yeah. A fine example is this article about how a well-known pick-up artist upset that a country with good social welfare programs makes it harder for him to manipulate women into letting him fuck them: http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/cockblocked-by-redistribution http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/cockblocked-by-redist... Also, excellent analogy.
  • patrickg_zill 13y ago
    http://www.rooshv.com/katie-j-m-baker-purposefully-distorted-my-work-to-advance-her-socialist-agenda http://www.rooshv.com/katie-j-m-baker-purposefully-distorted... She didn't accurately quote from his book and may have mis-represented key quotes that she pulls from it.
    • ceol 13y ago
      > But the book never stated that the pussy flow was blocked in Denmark, just that there was low quality, masculine pussy. He sure isn't helping his case. All of the random claims of "socialism" and "left-leaning" don't help, either. In fact, none of his clarifications actually prove she misquoted him, and each time he quoted his book in that post, it fit exactly with the original review. From his language (referring to women as "the pussy" instead of as, you know, actual people) to his extreme generalizations of women and cultures, it's apparent the original review was spot-on for both Roosh's book and PUA culture in general.
• Goladus 13y ago
  What people claim and what the vast majority use it for are two different things. True, but your implication has it backwards. Tynan is not part of the vast majority. He is an outlier, one degree of separation from Mystery(Erik von Markovik) and Neil Strauss. The vast majority of people are unable or unwilling to be so ruthlessly selfish and sacrifice healthy, stable relationships on the altar of hedonistic sex-- even if they think that's all they want (and most will admit otherwise). The dilemma is that guys who write about attraction and having sex with women tend to benefit a great deal by having a lot of experience with women. That's not very compatible with traditional monogamous relationships, so it will always be easy to attack them from this angle however irrelevant that angle may be.
• yaddayadda 13y ago
  Yet the photo of Tynan on the original post look nothing like the image you link to. http://cdn.sett.com/images/user/201311080003dc887f36b225a18e35cab567975a683c.jpg http://cdn.sett.com/images/user/201311080003dc887f36b225a18e...
  • tynan 13y ago
    It is me, but it was taken probably around 2005, when I was 24. Funny how much things change over the years...
• tynan 13y ago
  I don't look like a "poor bloke who has trouble talking to people" because I learned pickup and learned how to talk to people. I was very fortunate to be in the right place at the right time and be taken under the wings of the best PUAs. As a result I went from being a VERY shy socially awkward guy to being generally comfortable around people. Pickup changed my life for the better-- one of the best things that happened to me.
  • parasubvert 13y ago
    This echoes my experience with myself and acquaintances who learned pickup (though I only read a couple books). My fiancé even respects and uses PUA techniques for gaining social power as a female executive in a male-dominated industry. The point is that at its best this stuff is about learning to evolve how you handle yourself with others to have more success in social endeavors. Ie. most things that don't involve staring at a screen.