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This is the thing that bothers/scares me the most about this balkanization of the internet that's happening. You end up getting forced into bubbles that someone

This is the thing that bothers/scares me the most about this balkanization of the internet that's happening. You end up getting forced into bubbles that someone else has decided you belong in. And if you don't know it's happening, you can't even try to stop it. For me, I have not found utility in the things that have been selected for me, so most of these services are becoming useless. All those "smartest guys in the room" at places like Facebook and Google and Wherever are really fucking up if their goal was to direct me to things I like and might pay money for.

seiji 13y ago
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abraham 13y ago
> You end up getting forced into bubbles that someone else has decided you belong in. You are not forced into anything, if you don't want to be put into "bubbles" use other services.
- EpicEng 13y ago
  Not that black and white and you know it. These services are obiqutous. It's sometimes impossible to ignore them and they do in fact provide a great experience (the best really) in many ways. That doesn't mean they don't have faults and it doesn't mean people who use these services should simply ignore said faults or move away from them completely.
- dredmorbius 13y ago
  Well, then you're put in the bubble of people who don't use the offending service. And ... this may be news to you, but every once in a while a large bubbling company may actually buy some upstart service where their own attempts at NIH entry into a niche fail. You know, like Google buying YouTube in the first place.
- lowkeykiwi 13y ago
  'forced' is the wrong word for me, 'placed' is better. and avoiding them is fine for the competent but they are invisible to most people which is where the problems occur. The political bubbles are easy to spot but there are tons of people who have no idea and think they are getting the whole story.
- exodust 13y ago
  "You are not forced into anything" Pretty sure that's incorrect. If I want to rate an app I purchased on Google Play with my Google account, with my Google smartphone, I need to post that review to Google+ even if I don't use or have a Google+ profile. That is lame, because I am forced to create a profile and use Google+ (in addition to having a basic Google account where my credit card and email are) just to submit a feedback score to the developer of the app. Google forces its way between the task I'm undertaking - leaving a rating, and their Buzz 2.0 product which has nothing to do with me leaving a rating on an app I have paid money for. Google can force whatever it likes on users as defaults, and I won't care one bit if they just allow options for users to change those default settings. Eg "don't use Google+", "don't hide editable subject field in the compose new message gmail window".
ywyrd 13y ago
The crazy/frustrating part to me is that this takes place "even when you're not signed into an account".
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seiji 13y ago

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abraham 13y ago

> You end up getting forced into bubbles that someone else has decided you belong in. You are not forced into anything, if you don't want to be put into "bubbles" use other services.

EpicEng 13y ago
Not that black and white and you know it. These services are obiqutous. It's sometimes impossible to ignore them and they do in fact provide a great experience (the best really) in many ways. That doesn't mean they don't have faults and it doesn't mean people who use these services should simply ignore said faults or move away from them completely.
dredmorbius 13y ago
Well, then you're put in the bubble of people who don't use the offending service. And ... this may be news to you, but every once in a while a large bubbling company may actually buy some upstart service where their own attempts at NIH entry into a niche fail. You know, like Google buying YouTube in the first place.
lowkeykiwi 13y ago
'forced' is the wrong word for me, 'placed' is better. and avoiding them is fine for the competent but they are invisible to most people which is where the problems occur. The political bubbles are easy to spot but there are tons of people who have no idea and think they are getting the whole story.
exodust 13y ago
"You are not forced into anything" Pretty sure that's incorrect. If I want to rate an app I purchased on Google Play with my Google account, with my Google smartphone, I need to post that review to Google+ even if I don't use or have a Google+ profile. That is lame, because I am forced to create a profile and use Google+ (in addition to having a basic Google account where my credit card and email are) just to submit a feedback score to the developer of the app. Google forces its way between the task I'm undertaking - leaving a rating, and their Buzz 2.0 product which has nothing to do with me leaving a rating on an app I have paid money for. Google can force whatever it likes on users as defaults, and I won't care one bit if they just allow options for users to change those default settings. Eg "don't use Google+", "don't hide editable subject field in the compose new message gmail window".

ywyrd 13y ago

The crazy/frustrating part to me is that this takes place "even when you're not signed into an account".

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