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uh, you mean like Vimeo?

jiggy2011 13y ago
Basically. I like Vimeo better than youtube but it doesn't seem to get used as much. The front page of vimeo isn't as good though. It tells you about vimeo itself rather than giving you a large search bar and a bunch of content like youtube does.
- homosaur 13y ago
  Yeah you are right on about that. I always wondered why they aren't more friendly to their own content for nonusers because they're very friendly to discovery when you're logged in. I think it doesn't get used as much though because they will pull content if you're just posting videos of your friend doing cartwheels or something. There is a higher barrier to entry but they also only want very high quality HD or serious commercial or educational content. I wonder whether they aren't more forward about discovery to save on bandwidth money.
- myko 13y ago
  Vimeo is nice on the web, but they're garbage at mobile. YouTube has an excellent mobile app on both major mobile platforms and is supported on popular TV additions like AppleTV/Chromecast. Vimeo really needs to step up their mobile game.
  - homosaur 13y ago
    This used to be true, but what issues are you having with mobile? Since Android support was added, I've had few issues with it.
    - myko 13y ago
      Really? In my opinion the Vimeo Android app is abysmal. The design isn't responsive at all, it looks third party and unprofessional. To be fair, it's much better on iOS - but still outclassed by YouTube.
      - homosaur 13y ago
        Oh I actually haven't looked at the app, I was just talking about embedded video. I'm sure you're right about that, Android clients tend to lag way behind.
citricsquid 13y ago
Vimeo is not a Youtube alternative. Vimeo is to Youtube what Hacker News is to reddit. Vimeo is a nice video platform for creative projects, they do not allow a large amount of the content that Youtube does (no gaming videos, no dumb cat videos) and so it's not really suitable to replace Youtube. There are other alternatives though, dailymotion.com is fairly popular and will accept anything.
- epsylon 13y ago
  dm's player and overall speed is unfortunately way behind youtube.
- homosaur 13y ago
  I'm not sure you can have both high quality content and a zero barrier to entry. I actually think YT does an okay job surfacing some decent content for folks on the homepage, especially when you're logged in. I seem to anecdotally find the "related" sidebar more useful in recent times as well.
speeder 13y ago
Vimeo is terrible, very anti gamer, to.the point they ban developers that put trailer videos on their service. I am personally very happy that YouTube now match Vimeo quality and happily hosts my trailers for me.
- homosaur 13y ago
  According to Vimeo's guidelines, you just can't upload gameplay videos. It says specifically you can upload first party videos but need to mark them to avoid deletion. With the huge community of video gamers on YouTube, I don't even get why you'd want to put that video on Vimeo. https://vimeo.com/help/guidelines https://vimeo.com/help/guidelines
  - vidarh 13y ago
    You were the one suggesting Vimeo as an alternative to YouTube. And that's one of the reasons why Vimeo isn't a viable alternative.
  - speeder 13y ago
    When gameplay got forbidden, there was no such guideline, and YouTube did not supported HD, so Vimeo was popular for trailers, but their anti game stance drove everyone away, including first parties.

jiggy2011 13y ago

Basically. I like Vimeo better than youtube but it doesn't seem to get used as much. The front page of vimeo isn't as good though. It tells you about vimeo itself rather than giving you a large search bar and a bunch of content like youtube does.

homosaur 13y ago
Yeah you are right on about that. I always wondered why they aren't more friendly to their own content for nonusers because they're very friendly to discovery when you're logged in. I think it doesn't get used as much though because they will pull content if you're just posting videos of your friend doing cartwheels or something. There is a higher barrier to entry but they also only want very high quality HD or serious commercial or educational content. I wonder whether they aren't more forward about discovery to save on bandwidth money.
myko 13y ago
Vimeo is nice on the web, but they're garbage at mobile. YouTube has an excellent mobile app on both major mobile platforms and is supported on popular TV additions like AppleTV/Chromecast. Vimeo really needs to step up their mobile game.
- homosaur 13y ago
  This used to be true, but what issues are you having with mobile? Since Android support was added, I've had few issues with it.
  - myko 13y ago
    Really? In my opinion the Vimeo Android app is abysmal. The design isn't responsive at all, it looks third party and unprofessional. To be fair, it's much better on iOS - but still outclassed by YouTube.
    - homosaur 13y ago
      Oh I actually haven't looked at the app, I was just talking about embedded video. I'm sure you're right about that, Android clients tend to lag way behind.

citricsquid 13y ago

Vimeo is not a Youtube alternative. Vimeo is to Youtube what Hacker News is to reddit. Vimeo is a nice video platform for creative projects, they do not allow a large amount of the content that Youtube does (no gaming videos, no dumb cat videos) and so it's not really suitable to replace Youtube. There are other alternatives though, dailymotion.com is fairly popular and will accept anything.

epsylon 13y ago
dm's player and overall speed is unfortunately way behind youtube.
homosaur 13y ago
I'm not sure you can have both high quality content and a zero barrier to entry. I actually think YT does an okay job surfacing some decent content for folks on the homepage, especially when you're logged in. I seem to anecdotally find the "related" sidebar more useful in recent times as well.

speeder 13y ago

Vimeo is terrible, very anti gamer, to.the point they ban developers that put trailer videos on their service. I am personally very happy that YouTube now match Vimeo quality and happily hosts my trailers for me.

homosaur 13y ago
According to Vimeo's guidelines, you just can't upload gameplay videos. It says specifically you can upload first party videos but need to mark them to avoid deletion. With the huge community of video gamers on YouTube, I don't even get why you'd want to put that video on Vimeo. https://vimeo.com/help/guidelines https://vimeo.com/help/guidelines
- vidarh 13y ago
  You were the one suggesting Vimeo as an alternative to YouTube. And that's one of the reasons why Vimeo isn't a viable alternative.
- speeder 13y ago
  When gameplay got forbidden, there was no such guideline, and YouTube did not supported HD, so Vimeo was popular for trailers, but their anti game stance drove everyone away, including first parties.