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are Americans that daft? seriously, how can one not see this movie for what it is? feels like a giant whoosh.

zhemao 13y ago
I mean, there are some really terrible sci-fi B-movies out there. It's sometimes hard to tell satire from actual terribleness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law I didn't really see it as satire until I read articles saying it was. I thought it was just a really campy military sci-fi movie. I also don't really see how the movie portrayed the bugs as acting in self-defense. The movie begins with them slinging an asteroid that destroys Buenos Aires.
- stormbrew 13y ago
  It's been a while, but I think the movie makes it relatively clear that the asteroid attack was in response to violent colonization by the humans.
hindsightbias 13y ago
This is a country that took the original Red Dawn as a serious drama. Nicaraguans invading the Rockies. There's nothing too ridiculous a good portion won't buy.
- PhasmaFelis 13y ago
  Red Dawn was a serious drama. It was also pretty ridiculous. Stuff isn't always black-and-white. Seriously, there's plenty of reasons not to like Red Dawn, but I get tired of people talking like it's just a bunch of rah-rah America-wins jingoism. You may have forgotten that the movie ends with most of the protagonists dead and no end to the war in sight.
  - hindsightbias 13y ago
    Uh, there was a lot of rah-rah and jingoism. You must be exhausted of someone else saying it had a happy ending. "I was there, serving at the time as senior vice president for production in the administration of Frank Yablans, then-CEO of the company, when Yablans declared in no uncertain terms that he wanted to make the ultimate jingoistic movie and that Al Haig would take him there. “It will be a sure-fire international blockbuster,” Yablans enthused. ... Even Milius, a stoic, good-natured individual who is more about bluster than action, became alarmed. Wandering into my office one day, he confided his concern that he was being railroaded into what he described as “a flag-waving, jingoistic movie.” Milius said his intent was to make a movie about the “futility of war,” adding, “I have a nervous feeling that Yablans and Haig are jabbering away on their hot line about a different movie.”" http://variety.com/1997/voices/columns/red-dawn-shooting-it-the-mcveigh-way-1117859589/ http://variety.com/1997/voices/columns/red-dawn-shooting-it-...

I mean, there are some really terrible sci-fi B-movies out there. It's sometimes hard to tell satire from actual terribleness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law I didn't really see it as satire until I read articles saying it was. I thought it was just a really campy military sci-fi movie. I also don't really see how the movie portrayed the bugs as acting in self-defense. The movie begins with them slinging an asteroid that destroys Buenos Aires.

stormbrew 13y ago
It's been a while, but I think the movie makes it relatively clear that the asteroid attack was in response to violent colonization by the humans.

hindsightbias 13y ago

This is a country that took the original Red Dawn as a serious drama. Nicaraguans invading the Rockies. There's nothing too ridiculous a good portion won't buy.

PhasmaFelis 13y ago
Red Dawn was a serious drama. It was also pretty ridiculous. Stuff isn't always black-and-white. Seriously, there's plenty of reasons not to like Red Dawn, but I get tired of people talking like it's just a bunch of rah-rah America-wins jingoism. You may have forgotten that the movie ends with most of the protagonists dead and no end to the war in sight.
- hindsightbias 13y ago
  Uh, there was a lot of rah-rah and jingoism. You must be exhausted of someone else saying it had a happy ending. "I was there, serving at the time as senior vice president for production in the administration of Frank Yablans, then-CEO of the company, when Yablans declared in no uncertain terms that he wanted to make the ultimate jingoistic movie and that Al Haig would take him there. “It will be a sure-fire international blockbuster,” Yablans enthused. ... Even Milius, a stoic, good-natured individual who is more about bluster than action, became alarmed. Wandering into my office one day, he confided his concern that he was being railroaded into what he described as “a flag-waving, jingoistic movie.” Milius said his intent was to make a movie about the “futility of war,” adding, “I have a nervous feeling that Yablans and Haig are jabbering away on their hot line about a different movie.”" http://variety.com/1997/voices/columns/red-dawn-shooting-it-the-mcveigh-way-1117859589/ http://variety.com/1997/voices/columns/red-dawn-shooting-it-...