The interesting thing is seeing how vague they are about the actors, there's a lot of 'oh South Asia, around that region' but they very rarely go into actual de

The interesting thing is seeing how vague they are about the actors, there's a lot of 'oh South Asia, around that region' but they very rarely go into actual detail about where there's a threat. There was also an excellent moment where this was said: "Sawers says it is not like it was in the cold war, states trying to destroy our government and way of life, but there are very diverse threats: the biggest is terrorism. Then there are states that want to harm us, he says." So it's not like the cold war with specific states, but there are specific states that want to harm us. A bit of a weird flip-flop.