Yeah, problem is I remember clearly how a bunch of British plane spotters were ridiculed when they worked out that the US were flying strange flights in and out

Yeah, problem is I remember clearly how a bunch of British plane spotters were ridiculed when they worked out that the US were flying strange flights in and out of the UK with ragged looking Arabs on board. Only when non UK and US people got implicated and involved. Today we know this as extraordinary rendition. The other problem is that official types use ridicule instead of reason to slam people with ideas that contradict theirs. It seems that some people like evidence and some dont.