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Now Open: Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

30 points by rmldsky 13y ago

joelrunyon 13y ago
What is Jolla?
- Geee 13y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla
- jandudulski 13y ago
  Post Maemo (Nokia N700/N800/N810/N900), MeeGo (Nokia N9, N910) system developed mostly by ex-nokians who left the company after abandoning the MeeGo for Windows Mobile. The first phone should be ready at the end of this year.
  - sirkneeland 13y ago
    I've used prerelease software and it is just phenomenal. I still work at Nokia but I have pre-ordered one and can't wait to get it!
    - liminal 13y ago
      What did you especially like about it?
Geee 13y ago
And it's down already.. They seriously need more competent people in their web team. Edit: Seems to load now. https://harbour.jolla.com https://harbour.jolla.com
- trailfox 13y ago
  Perhaps a good sign that they are getting clobbered with traffic?
- keda 13y ago
  Still not loading here.
Zigurd 13y ago
Here is the interesting part: Jolla (Qt) and Android apps will be accepted. This increases the probability that the Jolla handset will ship with Android compatibility in Sailfish at launch. There are some interesting consequences to this: 1. Jolla is the first OEM to ship a non-Android OS with Android compatibility built in. 2. Jolla is the first OS maker to not rely on Web apps to fill in for a lack of app store content at launch, and instead go for native app compatibility with another platform. It's a unique launch strategy, with very low ego content. I think they will be rewarded with market acceptance for taking this approach. Have cake. Eat cake. Why not?
- jlund 13y ago
  Recent Blackberry versions also have an Android compatibility layer.
  - sirkneeland 13y ago
    Not all Android compatibility layers are created equal. BB10.0 shipped with an Android environment that could only run up to Android 2.3... And considering the power under the hood of the Z10, it was really laggy. And submitting them to BlackBerry World required the developer to modify it from a .apk to a .bar. What matters is how big the barriers to entry are for getting Android apps on. Both for developers and users. Jolla can improve on this, and IIRC the Jolla Harbour won't be the only way of putting apps on the device, Jolla said there would be a 3rd party android app store. And of Course, locking it down to a single app repo doesn't really fit with Jolla's vision of openness ;)
- makmanalp 13y ago
  I think the compatibility is done with libhybris: https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris Anyway, I am so excited about this. I think 2 means they have a real shot at this, and their product looks great. I just got an N9, but it seems the N9 port is dubious at this point: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6647428 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6647428 Still, I'm very happy for Jolla. Maybe I'll drop 500+ bucks on it when it comes out. edit: Uh oh, update again, looks like it's possible! http://wiki.maemo.org/OS http://wiki.maemo.org/OS http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90761&page=17 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90761&page=17
my3681 13y ago
What concern is there about Jolla custom applications being written in C++? I'm not exactly knocking the language as I have never used it to build a app, but generally speaking the language is a bit lower-level than Java and Objective-C (w/ ARC). Just wondering if anyone has developed anything on this platform and what there experiences have been.

30 points by rmldsky 13y ago

joelrunyon 13y ago

What is Jolla?

Geee 13y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla
jandudulski 13y ago
Post Maemo (Nokia N700/N800/N810/N900), MeeGo (Nokia N9, N910) system developed mostly by ex-nokians who left the company after abandoning the MeeGo for Windows Mobile. The first phone should be ready at the end of this year.
- sirkneeland 13y ago
  I've used prerelease software and it is just phenomenal. I still work at Nokia but I have pre-ordered one and can't wait to get it!
  - liminal 13y ago
    What did you especially like about it?

Geee 13y ago

And it's down already.. They seriously need more competent people in their web team. Edit: Seems to load now. https://harbour.jolla.com https://harbour.jolla.com

trailfox 13y ago
Perhaps a good sign that they are getting clobbered with traffic?
keda 13y ago
Still not loading here.

Zigurd 13y ago

Here is the interesting part: Jolla (Qt) and Android apps will be accepted. This increases the probability that the Jolla handset will ship with Android compatibility in Sailfish at launch. There are some interesting consequences to this: 1. Jolla is the first OEM to ship a non-Android OS with Android compatibility built in. 2. Jolla is the first OS maker to not rely on Web apps to fill in for a lack of app store content at launch, and instead go for native app compatibility with another platform. It's a unique launch strategy, with very low ego content. I think they will be rewarded with market acceptance for taking this approach. Have cake. Eat cake. Why not?

jlund 13y ago
Recent Blackberry versions also have an Android compatibility layer.
- sirkneeland 13y ago
  Not all Android compatibility layers are created equal. BB10.0 shipped with an Android environment that could only run up to Android 2.3... And considering the power under the hood of the Z10, it was really laggy. And submitting them to BlackBerry World required the developer to modify it from a .apk to a .bar. What matters is how big the barriers to entry are for getting Android apps on. Both for developers and users. Jolla can improve on this, and IIRC the Jolla Harbour won't be the only way of putting apps on the device, Jolla said there would be a 3rd party android app store. And of Course, locking it down to a single app repo doesn't really fit with Jolla's vision of openness ;)
makmanalp 13y ago
I think the compatibility is done with libhybris: https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris Anyway, I am so excited about this. I think 2 means they have a real shot at this, and their product looks great. I just got an N9, but it seems the N9 port is dubious at this point: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6647428 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6647428 Still, I'm very happy for Jolla. Maybe I'll drop 500+ bucks on it when it comes out. edit: Uh oh, update again, looks like it's possible! http://wiki.maemo.org/OS http://wiki.maemo.org/OS http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90761&page=17 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90761&page=17

my3681 13y ago

What concern is there about Jolla custom applications being written in C++? I'm not exactly knocking the language as I have never used it to build a app, but generally speaking the language is a bit lower-level than Java and Objective-C (w/ ARC). Just wondering if anyone has developed anything on this platform and what there experiences have been.