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A number of people have commented that they are not surprised by the police actions in this case, because they are likely corrupt. I'm right there with you in m

by cwilson 13y ago

A number of people have commented that they are not surprised by the police actions in this case, because they are likely corrupt. I'm right there with you in most cases, but I simply can't wrap my head around what kind of outcome here would have made it worth all the trouble for the police involved? After the SECOND probe (there were six total probes, two x-rays) I'd think most people would be convinced the guy wasn't hiding anything. Even if he was, we're not talking pounds of drugs here. The police involved, and anyone that went along with SIX probes and two x-rays, and still were not sure this guy was innocent, are far beyond "corrupt", they are simply insane. Corruption generally comes with some kind of substantial payoff. What could that have been in this case? I'm really baffled by this, and scared. Only truly crazy people could allow this to happen, much less support it.

TruthElixirX 13y ago
Have you ever been on the other end of an office who "knows" you have something on you? I have. I was pulled over in Dallas, TX because my tag light as "out." He made me step out of the car. When I did, I looked at my tag light. I was not out. I told him. He then changed his story to it was "too dim." (It was the factory light in the factory casing, etc. All stock.). He then asked if I was okay with a search. I told him no, so he called the drug dog. Drug dog hit on my car on the third time around it. They ripped my car apart, threw my laptop on the ground, let the dog crawl all over my interior. This entire time my car was running. They kept me there long enough to run down 3/4ths a tank of gas. After they found absolutely nothing (I don't do drugs outside of caffeine and alcohol once a month or so.) the dick head started trying to rip off my fucking interior door panels because he knew there was something there. He started with the one on the opposite side of the car that the dog hit on. The other officer talked him out of it and they let me be on my way, but then I had to spend the next half hour picking my shit up off the side of a 6 lane interstate at 10:30 PM in the fucking dark, praying I didn't leave something behind or get hit. Cops are are worse people on average than a random group of the general population. "Domestic violence is 2 to 4 times more common in police families than in the general population." [0] [0]http://www.purpleberets.org/violence_dv_extent_problem.html http://www.purpleberets.org/violence_dv_extent_problem.html
- malka 13y ago
  I'm pretty sure (no evidence though) that because being a cop gives power over people, this job tends to attract sociopath.
spin 13y ago
Over the past several years, this has been bothering me more and more, too. If it's "we did this horrible thing, but made some money" or "we did this horrible thing, and locked up some terrible bad guy", then at least there's some kind of logic to it. But we keep hearing these stories of: someone in power does some whacked-out stupid mean shit to someone who's in no position to resist. And it goes unchecked and unpunished?... I don't mean to be hand-wringing and preaching to the choir here,... but yeah -- I'm baffled and scared, too. I think there's a streak of American culture that enjoys hurting people just for the sake of hurting people.
- spin 13y ago
  (replying to my own post...) I'm remembering back to the L.A. riots, after the Rodney King beating. I'm a white guy, and I was watching the riots on TV in high school. I wasn't sure what to make of it at the time. Maybe things haven't changed much?... (sadly...)
cmsmith 13y ago
It seems possible that the police realized they were in trouble and were attempting a last-ditch effort to get out of it. The incremental civil rights violation from the 6th unnecessary cavity search might be relatively low compared to the 1% chance they would find something and be saved from the inevitable lawsuit.
zwass 13y ago
Seems to me these cops (along with many others) are just sadists. The guy looked at them funny, and they made him pay. They'll pay.
- zentiggr 13y ago
  One hopes. Not anywhere near as guaranteed as it needs to be.
r00fus 13y ago
> The police involved, and anyone that went along with SIX probes and two x-rays, and still were not sure this guy was innocent, are far beyond "corrupt", they are simply insane. Corruption generally comes with some kind of substantial payoff. What could that have been in this case? I'm really baffled by this, and scared. Only truly crazy people could allow this to happen, much less support it. If you think of the police (or groups of police officers) as just another gang (sadly a possibility in some districts), then this could be a targeted humiliation/retribution effort either on the behalf of a police officer (unlikely) or for a local patron/mafioso. It seems the most plausible explanation to me.

by cwilson 13y ago

TruthElixirX 13y ago

Have you ever been on the other end of an office who "knows" you have something on you? I have. I was pulled over in Dallas, TX because my tag light as "out." He made me step out of the car. When I did, I looked at my tag light. I was not out. I told him. He then changed his story to it was "too dim." (It was the factory light in the factory casing, etc. All stock.). He then asked if I was okay with a search. I told him no, so he called the drug dog. Drug dog hit on my car on the third time around it. They ripped my car apart, threw my laptop on the ground, let the dog crawl all over my interior. This entire time my car was running. They kept me there long enough to run down 3/4ths a tank of gas. After they found absolutely nothing (I don't do drugs outside of caffeine and alcohol once a month or so.) the dick head started trying to rip off my fucking interior door panels because he knew there was something there. He started with the one on the opposite side of the car that the dog hit on. The other officer talked him out of it and they let me be on my way, but then I had to spend the next half hour picking my shit up off the side of a 6 lane interstate at 10:30 PM in the fucking dark, praying I didn't leave something behind or get hit. Cops are are worse people on average than a random group of the general population. "Domestic violence is 2 to 4 times more common in police families than in the general population." [0] [0]http://www.purpleberets.org/violence_dv_extent_problem.html http://www.purpleberets.org/violence_dv_extent_problem.html

malka 13y ago
I'm pretty sure (no evidence though) that because being a cop gives power over people, this job tends to attract sociopath.

spin 13y ago

Over the past several years, this has been bothering me more and more, too. If it's "we did this horrible thing, but made some money" or "we did this horrible thing, and locked up some terrible bad guy", then at least there's some kind of logic to it. But we keep hearing these stories of: someone in power does some whacked-out stupid mean shit to someone who's in no position to resist. And it goes unchecked and unpunished?... I don't mean to be hand-wringing and preaching to the choir here,... but yeah -- I'm baffled and scared, too. I think there's a streak of American culture that enjoys hurting people just for the sake of hurting people.

spin 13y ago
(replying to my own post...) I'm remembering back to the L.A. riots, after the Rodney King beating. I'm a white guy, and I was watching the riots on TV in high school. I wasn't sure what to make of it at the time. Maybe things haven't changed much?... (sadly...)

cmsmith 13y ago

It seems possible that the police realized they were in trouble and were attempting a last-ditch effort to get out of it. The incremental civil rights violation from the 6th unnecessary cavity search might be relatively low compared to the 1% chance they would find something and be saved from the inevitable lawsuit.

zwass 13y ago

Seems to me these cops (along with many others) are just sadists. The guy looked at them funny, and they made him pay. They'll pay.

zentiggr 13y ago
One hopes. Not anywhere near as guaranteed as it needs to be.

r00fus 13y ago

> The police involved, and anyone that went along with SIX probes and two x-rays, and still were not sure this guy was innocent, are far beyond "corrupt", they are simply insane. Corruption generally comes with some kind of substantial payoff. What could that have been in this case? I'm really baffled by this, and scared. Only truly crazy people could allow this to happen, much less support it. If you think of the police (or groups of police officers) as just another gang (sadly a possibility in some districts), then this could be a targeted humiliation/retribution effort either on the behalf of a police officer (unlikely) or for a local patron/mafioso. It seems the most plausible explanation to me.