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So, your argument is that your intimate knowledge of criminal enterprise and everyone's lives leads you to believe that anyone who claims to be a victim of huma

by lhc- 13y ago

So, your argument is that your intimate knowledge of criminal enterprise and everyone's lives leads you to believe that anyone who claims to be a victim of human trafficking is a liar because it sounds unlikely to you? Despite all the evidence to the contrary provided by human rights organizations around the world?

coldEye 13y ago
The phoniness of this is evidenced in your reply. When did I say "anyone who claims to be a victim of human trafficking is a liar"? Anyone can just read what I said and see your claim that I said that is false. The definition of "human trafficking" is mutable as well. Some people use it to describe women who willingly come to the US. In fact laws and proposed laws cover this as well. Human rights organization....one of the most well-quoted is Human Rights Watch. It used to be called "Helsinki Watch". In fact, it's founder, Robert Bernstein is always criticizing it because he is even more right-wing then when he founded it as an anti-communist group. He is someone with an ideological axe to grind. Just like "Freedom House", a "human rights" group funded by the US government. Or the National Endowment for Democracy another "human rights" group. Most human rights groups are funded by the US government, or billionaires, or their foundations. In my mind, and many others minds, they reflect the ideological concerns of these groups. Of course it's impossible to prove this woman didn't travel to house to house with a gun to her back as she said. It's just risible and ridiculous at the sound of it. These ridiculous fairy tales are said to be possible, and therefore worthy of attention, laws, and Big Brother PRISM as was the original topic. Amy Goodman and friend being almost beaten to death covering the massacres of Timorese by US-backed Indonesians - that doesn't bear much discussion of. That's very real, but mostly ignored. Or the CIA-backed murder of hundreds of thousands of Indonesian unionists. No, what is needed is this excuse for Big Brother, due to the ridiculous sounding stories of whores who - surprise! - want to stay in the US despite coming here illegally.

by lhc- 13y ago

coldEye 13y ago

The phoniness of this is evidenced in your reply. When did I say "anyone who claims to be a victim of human trafficking is a liar"? Anyone can just read what I said and see your claim that I said that is false. The definition of "human trafficking" is mutable as well. Some people use it to describe women who willingly come to the US. In fact laws and proposed laws cover this as well. Human rights organization....one of the most well-quoted is Human Rights Watch. It used to be called "Helsinki Watch". In fact, it's founder, Robert Bernstein is always criticizing it because he is even more right-wing then when he founded it as an anti-communist group. He is someone with an ideological axe to grind. Just like "Freedom House", a "human rights" group funded by the US government. Or the National Endowment for Democracy another "human rights" group. Most human rights groups are funded by the US government, or billionaires, or their foundations. In my mind, and many others minds, they reflect the ideological concerns of these groups. Of course it's impossible to prove this woman didn't travel to house to house with a gun to her back as she said. It's just risible and ridiculous at the sound of it. These ridiculous fairy tales are said to be possible, and therefore worthy of attention, laws, and Big Brother PRISM as was the original topic. Amy Goodman and friend being almost beaten to death covering the massacres of Timorese by US-backed Indonesians - that doesn't bear much discussion of. That's very real, but mostly ignored. Or the CIA-backed murder of hundreds of thousands of Indonesian unionists. No, what is needed is this excuse for Big Brother, due to the ridiculous sounding stories of whores who - surprise! - want to stay in the US despite coming here illegally.