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At a risk of being downvoted: I am not sure "webcam sex" hurts anybody. The girl is not physically harmed in any way.

by runn1ng 13y ago

kbar13 13y ago
what about emotional/psychological damage? I would imagine that physical rape is also mostly an emotional/psychological thing. disclaimer: I'm not a girl, I have not been raped, I have not known of anyone close to me who has been raped, nor am I a psychologist.
brianlweiner 13y ago
A child (who does not legally have a capacity to consent) 'performing' for strangers? You're going on a bit of a limb to suggest there's no possibility for physical harm here.
anigbrowl 13y ago
Well, there's a strong possibility that kids are beaten or otherwise abused if they decline to participate in such activity, which is one reason to undermine the market and make it unprofitable. Also, you're overlooking the possibility of significant psychological damage. Being a stripper doesn't seem like a healthy occupation for a ten year old.
richbradshaw 13y ago
The quote from their director was "Our worst scenario is that the same thing will happen with this as has happened with child pornography that is now a multibillion dollar industry in the hands of criminal gangs." Also there was an article about cam girls the other day showing some/many are poorly paid in studios in 3rd world countries. Where there is demand, there is always someone there to make money – in this case it's clear that attempting to curtail demand will stop commercialisation of this sort of thing.
IbJacked 13y ago
The article mentions that the "webcam sex" involves people paying to watch, via webcam, actual sex. Very different situation.
DanBC 13y ago
There are examples of people actually killing themselves after webcam sex. Some of those people are blackmailed and asked to pay money in order to prevent release if the images. Some people just have the images released anyway, and are bullied to death.
- jsymolon 13y ago
  Right. But are those the group that selects to go into web cam or the group that is showing off to a significant other/on a lark ?
  - DanBC 13y ago
    Both. Some people are lured by fake contacts into sexual explicit photography or videography. They are then blackmailed into providing money. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20698106 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20698106 > The pair often pretended to be someone the children already knew on social networking and instant messaging applications, > They would trick victims into giving them their online passwords using a link, before threatening them into "engaging in sexual activities via webcam," Ceop said. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23141414 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23141414 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-23712000 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-23... > It is thought Daniel Perry had become involved in a scam where victims are befriended and tricked into making explicit webcam recordings. > These are then used for blackmail. See also Amanda Todd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd
melling 13y ago
So, if you had a daughter, it would be ok if she made a little extra money on the side? It's kind of strange that anyone would have to explain why this is a problem. Wonder what just happened to your Google, Facebook, and NSA social graph profile? :-)
- britta 13y ago
  (I imagine you mean "young daughter" - this is about the problem that children under the age of consent are involved, not about women in general.)
wetmore 13y ago
I was unaware the only way someone can be harmed is physically.
cvshepherd 13y ago
Terre des Hommes has for years worked to combat child prostitution in Southeast Asia and staff members noticed in recent years that young prostitutes were disappearing from their usual haunts: cafes, restaurants and hotels frequented by sex tourists. after reading this part, i too was asking myself if cracking down on 'webcam-sex' is the best idea, because if this phenomenon contributes to less girls and women being on the streets, that means that less people are going to be victims of related violence, sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies.

At a risk of being downvoted: I am not sure "webcam sex" hurts anybody. The girl is not physically harmed in any way.

by runn1ng 13y ago

At a risk of being downvoted: I am not sure "webcam sex" hurts anybody. The girl is not physically harmed in any way.

what about emotional/psychological damage? I would imagine that physical rape is also mostly an emotional/psychological thing. disclaimer: I'm not a girl, I have not been raped, I have not known of anyone close to me who has been raped, nor am I a psychologist.

brianlweiner 13y ago

A child (who does not legally have a capacity to consent) 'performing' for strangers? You're going on a bit of a limb to suggest there's no possibility for physical harm here.

anigbrowl 13y ago

Well, there's a strong possibility that kids are beaten or otherwise abused if they decline to participate in such activity, which is one reason to undermine the market and make it unprofitable. Also, you're overlooking the possibility of significant psychological damage. Being a stripper doesn't seem like a healthy occupation for a ten year old.

richbradshaw 13y ago

The quote from their director was "Our worst scenario is that the same thing will happen with this as has happened with child pornography that is now a multibillion dollar industry in the hands of criminal gangs." Also there was an article about cam girls the other day showing some/many are poorly paid in studios in 3rd world countries. Where there is demand, there is always someone there to make money – in this case it's clear that attempting to curtail demand will stop commercialisation of this sort of thing.

IbJacked 13y ago

The article mentions that the "webcam sex" involves people paying to watch, via webcam, actual sex. Very different situation.

DanBC 13y ago

There are examples of people actually killing themselves after webcam sex. Some of those people are blackmailed and asked to pay money in order to prevent release if the images. Some people just have the images released anyway, and are bullied to death.

jsymolon 13y ago
Right. But are those the group that selects to go into web cam or the group that is showing off to a significant other/on a lark ?
- DanBC 13y ago
  Both. Some people are lured by fake contacts into sexual explicit photography or videography. They are then blackmailed into providing money. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20698106 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20698106 > The pair often pretended to be someone the children already knew on social networking and instant messaging applications, > They would trick victims into giving them their online passwords using a link, before threatening them into "engaging in sexual activities via webcam," Ceop said. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23141414 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23141414 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-23712000 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-23... > It is thought Daniel Perry had become involved in a scam where victims are befriended and tricked into making explicit webcam recordings. > These are then used for blackmail. See also Amanda Todd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd

melling 13y ago

So, if you had a daughter, it would be ok if she made a little extra money on the side? It's kind of strange that anyone would have to explain why this is a problem. Wonder what just happened to your Google, Facebook, and NSA social graph profile? :-)

britta 13y ago
(I imagine you mean "young daughter" - this is about the problem that children under the age of consent are involved, not about women in general.)

wetmore 13y ago

I was unaware the only way someone can be harmed is physically.

cvshepherd 13y ago

Terre des Hommes has for years worked to combat child prostitution in Southeast Asia and staff members noticed in recent years that young prostitutes were disappearing from their usual haunts: cafes, restaurants and hotels frequented by sex tourists. after reading this part, i too was asking myself if cracking down on 'webcam-sex' is the best idea, because if this phenomenon contributes to less girls and women being on the streets, that means that less people are going to be victims of related violence, sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies.