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Show HN: Marketplace for programmers that have contributed to open source

12 points by rhc2104 13y ago

sqs 13y ago
Looks cool! I tried searching for C and Go programmers and got no results. I saw one for JS, though. Just signed up and will check back. It would be cool if there was more info about the site's role in the marketplace. Will CodeDoor be the go-between? Any guarantees? Any vetting?
- rhc2104 13y ago
  Hi, We literally just launched, so that's why we don't have that many developers yet. CodeDoor is the go-between, although we haven't implemented payments yet. Soon! The vetting is the open source contributions- the idea is that technical clients can decide for themselves if the OSS contributions makes a programmer worthy of hire.
  - sqs 13y ago
    Awesome! Good luck with the launch. Looks like it could be very useful.
tokenrove 13y ago
It would be nice if you supported ohloh in addition to github, since it tracks a much broader set of open source projects.
- rhc2104 13y ago
  That's a great idea! Why don't you open an issue? https://github.com/CodeDoor/codedoor/issues?state=open https://github.com/CodeDoor/codedoor/issues?state=open
zackmorris 13y ago
This might be a good place to list some issues I have encountered while being a contractor online: * I've been burned a few times charging by project or by milestone instead of hourly. So I appreciate that you are starting with a daily rate. * I've also been caught between getting too many small contract offers and failing to land large contracts. It would be really helpful to magically figure this out for me (this is the killer feature that I dream of, matching contractors to the jobs that resonate with them). It may involve being able to join groups of other programmers or having your site play more of a recruiter/HR liaison than usual, to shelter us to some degree from being public facing, but also get our feet in the door. * Escrow is great and I also really like that oDesk guarantees you will be paid for any hours worked under their timer. But if you could find a way to do this without the timer, perhaps with a peer review of some kind that says "this person knows what he or she is doing", it would really relieve the tension of being watched over the shoulder. Also roughly half of the mental work I do now is subconscious, which limits me to perhaps 4 billable hours a day of visible work. Another way to say this is, I have trouble crossing more than 1 or 2 items off my to-do list each day because I have to do XYZ first, or fix something that used to work, or finish subcomponents first, and so much of my day would look like idle time to an outside observer, even though I am thinking hard.
- rhc2104 13y ago
  Hi, I'm glad you like the daily rate. I'm hoping that a daily rate will prevent contracts that are too short (as you it's not that cost efficient to get) I like escrow in general, and want it to make sense for hourly/daily rates. Obviously, I wouldn't make a timer like oDesk- no sane top programmer would want to use that in this hiring environment. A nice thing about fixed price contracts is that I could just demand all the money in escrow (this is what ooomf does). Let me know if you have any ideas for improvements. If so, open an issue!
3riverdev 13y ago
BIG kudos for open sourcing your code with a usable license. This sounds like an interesting project! One nitpick: I signed up for a programmer account and, when I was originally presented the "add your details" page, I'm 90% sure that a save button wasn't visible at the bottom. I had to hit enter when focused on a text field. The Edit button is there, though.
- 3riverdev 13y ago
  One other point of frustration was that it appeared to find only contributions within my and other user accounts, but not organization accounts. For instance, my (and others') forks of Hibernate ORM was picked up, but not the original within the Hibernate organization.
  - rhc2104 13y ago
    Unfortunately, this is more of a feature request than a bug. Right now, there is an interface where you can manually add repositories that you have contributed. Did you see the interface? If not, how can I draw more attention to it? There is no simple API call to fetch the repos you have contributed to, which means I would have to crawl through every fork to see if changes made it upstream. I could do it as a short-term fix (the long-term fix is to crawl all GitHub data), but I have about 5~ish things on my queue that are definitely more pressing. Of course, it's open source, so if you want to add that functionality, it would be awesome!
- rhc2104 13y ago
  Thanks for the kind words and the bug report. Have you created an issue on the GitHub repo? Can you give me a screenshot and the Browser/OS that you are using?
insteadof 13y ago
Where is the page on payment terms? Is there one? Unless you have it buried in the Terms.
- rhc2104 13y ago
  Contractor fee + 12.5% = Client fee So, CodeDoor ends up taking 1/9 of transactions. I've commented out the payment stuff I have right now. Obviously, I'd like to get that out soon...

12 points by rhc2104 13y ago

sqs 13y ago

Looks cool! I tried searching for C and Go programmers and got no results. I saw one for JS, though. Just signed up and will check back. It would be cool if there was more info about the site's role in the marketplace. Will CodeDoor be the go-between? Any guarantees? Any vetting?

rhc2104 13y ago
Hi, We literally just launched, so that's why we don't have that many developers yet. CodeDoor is the go-between, although we haven't implemented payments yet. Soon! The vetting is the open source contributions- the idea is that technical clients can decide for themselves if the OSS contributions makes a programmer worthy of hire.
- sqs 13y ago
  Awesome! Good luck with the launch. Looks like it could be very useful.

tokenrove 13y ago

It would be nice if you supported ohloh in addition to github, since it tracks a much broader set of open source projects.

rhc2104 13y ago
That's a great idea! Why don't you open an issue? https://github.com/CodeDoor/codedoor/issues?state=open https://github.com/CodeDoor/codedoor/issues?state=open

zackmorris 13y ago

This might be a good place to list some issues I have encountered while being a contractor online: * I've been burned a few times charging by project or by milestone instead of hourly. So I appreciate that you are starting with a daily rate. * I've also been caught between getting too many small contract offers and failing to land large contracts. It would be really helpful to magically figure this out for me (this is the killer feature that I dream of, matching contractors to the jobs that resonate with them). It may involve being able to join groups of other programmers or having your site play more of a recruiter/HR liaison than usual, to shelter us to some degree from being public facing, but also get our feet in the door. * Escrow is great and I also really like that oDesk guarantees you will be paid for any hours worked under their timer. But if you could find a way to do this without the timer, perhaps with a peer review of some kind that says "this person knows what he or she is doing", it would really relieve the tension of being watched over the shoulder. Also roughly half of the mental work I do now is subconscious, which limits me to perhaps 4 billable hours a day of visible work. Another way to say this is, I have trouble crossing more than 1 or 2 items off my to-do list each day because I have to do XYZ first, or fix something that used to work, or finish subcomponents first, and so much of my day would look like idle time to an outside observer, even though I am thinking hard.

rhc2104 13y ago
Hi, I'm glad you like the daily rate. I'm hoping that a daily rate will prevent contracts that are too short (as you it's not that cost efficient to get) I like escrow in general, and want it to make sense for hourly/daily rates. Obviously, I wouldn't make a timer like oDesk- no sane top programmer would want to use that in this hiring environment. A nice thing about fixed price contracts is that I could just demand all the money in escrow (this is what ooomf does). Let me know if you have any ideas for improvements. If so, open an issue!

3riverdev 13y ago

BIG kudos for open sourcing your code with a usable license. This sounds like an interesting project! One nitpick: I signed up for a programmer account and, when I was originally presented the "add your details" page, I'm 90% sure that a save button wasn't visible at the bottom. I had to hit enter when focused on a text field. The Edit button is there, though.

3riverdev 13y ago
One other point of frustration was that it appeared to find only contributions within my and other user accounts, but not organization accounts. For instance, my (and others') forks of Hibernate ORM was picked up, but not the original within the Hibernate organization.
- rhc2104 13y ago
  Unfortunately, this is more of a feature request than a bug. Right now, there is an interface where you can manually add repositories that you have contributed. Did you see the interface? If not, how can I draw more attention to it? There is no simple API call to fetch the repos you have contributed to, which means I would have to crawl through every fork to see if changes made it upstream. I could do it as a short-term fix (the long-term fix is to crawl all GitHub data), but I have about 5~ish things on my queue that are definitely more pressing. Of course, it's open source, so if you want to add that functionality, it would be awesome!
rhc2104 13y ago
Thanks for the kind words and the bug report. Have you created an issue on the GitHub repo? Can you give me a screenshot and the Browser/OS that you are using?

insteadof 13y ago

Where is the page on payment terms? Is there one? Unless you have it buried in the Terms.

rhc2104 13y ago
Contractor fee + 12.5% = Client fee So, CodeDoor ends up taking 1/9 of transactions. I've commented out the payment stuff I have right now. Obviously, I'd like to get that out soon...