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Superfast rock-paper-scissors robot wins every time
- CompelTechnic 13y agoI, for one, welcome our new robot overlords. Once they control rock paper scissors, they control the world. On a less jaded note, this is a pretty neat computer vision application.
- NAFV_P 13y agoHoly shit, can you imagine getting into a duel with Yul Brynner out of Westworld with that kind of reaction speed?
- njharman 13y ago> Yul Brynner out of Westworld Dude, I saw that as little kid and it freaked me the hell out. Relentless bald man chased my nightmares for years. Also, dude! I thought that movie too old / HN too young to remember that sci-fi golden age classic. Thanks for making my day. Although, I worry about bald bad ass chasing me tonight.
- NAFV_P 13y agoAccording to BBC's QI, a guy who used to teach actors how to shoot said that there were only two people who wouldn't blink when they fired a gun... Clint Eastwood && Yul Brynner.
- VladRussian2 13y agoconsidering that we now already have rifle attached directional sound detection of a source of [enemy] shot and experimental helmet mounted phase array radars that are realtime tracking individual flying bullets, the end of people's participation in any kind of duel/battlefield seems to be visible on the horizon.
- anonymfus 13y agoIt will not be end of people's participation, it will just mean that all losses will be civilian.
- hugecannon 13y agoThey'd go into a nice super-fast loop if you put two facing each other
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoI want to see that now.
- tluyben2 13y agoNow if they would only take this great invention into outer space like in one of my fav games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tq7QngiiLI#t=163 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tq7QngiiLI#t=163 .
- yummybear 13y agoYes, if you consider it a win when you cheat.
- raybeorn 13y agoI don't understand how using all your abilities to win is cheating? I think that is saying smart kids cheat on test because they are smart.
- jasonlotito 13y agoCheating in rock-paper-scissors is changing your throw when you see what the other person is throwing. I can win every time if I see what you are throwing and can change my throw to beat it. However, if we are okay with using all your abilities to win and not count that as cheating, I can guarantee I win every time against that robot. I'd just remove the power source.
- raybeorn 13y agoWinning is winning, no matter how you do it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobayashi_Maru#James_T._Kirk.27s_test http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobayashi_Maru#James_T._Kirk.27...
- sp332 13y agoAt that point, you're not even playing the same game, so how can you claim you've won?
- ISL 13y agoBecause you become Captain of the Starship Enterprise? Or, because you've achieved the mission goals?
- sp332 13y agoKirk only got a commendation for that. He had to work for a long time after the Kobayashi Maru incident to get the Enterprise. You're begging the question. Achieving the same goals with different rules is a different game. Using stilts and a machine gun to get a ball in a hoop is not basketball.
- Gepser 13y agorock paper scissors lizard spock
- beambot 13y agoAnd like most robot systems, you can "trick" the robot by just occluding its sensors. By the way... this robot hand can do other amazing feats of dexterity: http://www.hizook.com/blog/2009/08/03/high-speed-robot-hand-demonstrates-dexterity-and-skillful-manipulation http://www.hizook.com/blog/2009/08/03/high-speed-robot-hand-...
- rodolphoarruda 13y agoThe video instantly recalled me this scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs60aWyLrnI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs60aWyLrnI I wonder if our real robots could do such thing with a pencil.
- pavel_lishin 13y ago> And like most robot systems, you can "trick" the robot by just occluding its sensors. I'd probably lose rock-paper-scissors if you blind-folded me, too.
- tillinghast 13y agoOk, I'll bite. Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't chance the entire point of rock-paper-scissors? In that case, how would observing your opponent have any affect on the result? Though I guess I'm backwards enough to have grown up calling it "Paper Rock Scissors", so I might be oblivious to something here.
- Jtsummers 13y agoBack in grade school, against certain opponents, I could "intuit" their plays. In retrospect, I was probably doing something akin to what the robot here does (recognized what their hand was forming before I make my play) + discerning a pattern in their plays. Also, at this point I have no idea why we played rock-paper-scissors so much in 3rd grade, but we did.
- ronaldx 13y agoI could beat my younger sister at RPS every throw. I couldn't have told you exactly how I knew, but I knew what she had decided to play whenever she started to move her arm. So I would reveal before her and still win... that freaked her out.
- timdellinger 13y agoIf you're going to "unveil a robot", then a better looking Scissors would be called for here. The algorithm is also likely foolable by throwing what appears to be one symbol (e.g. rock), but then morphs into another symbol (two fingers go out late in the symbol formation, in order to present scissors upon completion of the movement). A comparison of the reaction time of this robot vs. say... Google's automonous driving car, or vs. an automatic stock trading machine, might present the robot as interesting. Multiple cameras and a wide variety of acceptable symbol geometries on the part of the human player (rock rotated 90 degrees, the use of two hands, etc) would add realistic complexity... and would require more complex recognition algorithms, likely slowing down the reaction time of the robot.
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoBeambot's link below is informative. Turns out this is actually an astoundingly versatile multifunction hand; the three fingers can each oppose each other and are fast enough to dribble a ping-pong ball 10 times a second, precise enough to use tweezers to pick up a singe grain of rice, and agile enough to throw a cell phone in the air and catch it with fingertips. Rock Paper Scissors is only one trick of many, but of course it's the only one the media is interested in. Oh well.
- njharman 13y agoWow! Physically superior things are superior.
- baddox 13y agoI bet robots can win arm wrestling as well!
- S_A_P 13y agoIt's like playing Rock Paper Scissors with my son or step daughter! They never lose. However they don't have a 1ms reaction time...
- kaeluka 13y agodiplomacy will never be the same
- IvyMike 13y agoWatching the video it still seems like I can still see that the bot is responding to the human. (I mean, I know that is what it's doing, but I thought I wasn't supposed to be able to detect it.)
- shasta 13y agoThis explains how I kept losing to the hobo with the robotic hand set up on a table outside that nightclub in Tokyo.
- perlpimp 13y agosort of like HFT vs Regular traders?
- j2kun 13y agoWonder how it would fare with a rotating hand.