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Wait for 60TB HAMR http://storageeffect.media.seagate.com/files/2012/03/perphamr2.gif http://storageeffect.media.seagate.com/files/2012/03/perpham... Netflix,

by ck2 13y ago

Wait for 60TB HAMR http://storageeffect.media.seagate.com/files/2012/03/perphamr2.gif http://storageeffect.media.seagate.com/files/2012/03/perpham... Netflix, which uses HGST high-capacity hard drives in its data centers I thought Netflix uses Amazon AWS ?

cowsandmilk 13y ago
probably talking about the openconnect CDN, which I don't believe is AWS based. One of the options for openconnect is for the machines to be hosted at the ISP, so that part definitely is not AWS.
cweaver 13y ago
Part of their CDN uses custom boxes based off Backblaze pods. http://gigaom.com/2012/06/06/why-netflixs-cdn-should-scare-the-storage-industry/ http://gigaom.com/2012/06/06/why-netflixs-cdn-should-scare-t...
selmnoo 13y ago
Are HAMR drives commercially available yet? Wiki makes it sound like 60TB HAMR drives will be readily available at low cost for consumers by 2016 or so, do you think that's likely the reality of things?
- ck2 13y ago
  Seagate is suggesting the first HAMR drive will be a 3.5 inch Barracuda of 7.5TB I think they are taking it gradually. The problem with HAMR is evaporation of the surface film.
- jodrellblank 13y ago
  Amazing technology in due in 3-5 years? Probably not.
jonknee 13y ago
For computing power, it would be ridiculously expensive to try and use AWS to stream all their video.
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WestCoastJustin 13y ago
Netflix has CDN's they put at peering points, you can read about it here @ https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/tue.lightning1.general.temkin.pdf https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/tue.lightning1.gen... But you can also check out the Netflix open connect site @ https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/hardware https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/hardware
- wmf 13y ago
  IIRC the latest version of the CDN is 100% flash, though.
  - WestCoastJustin 13y ago
    Yeah, they talk about that on slide #9.
  - cperciva 13y ago
    Their newest boxes are 100% flash, but they're still rolling out the older spinning-rust designs. The all-flash boxes are for the most frequently requested movies, in the locations where there's enough traffic to justify them.

by ck2 13y ago

cowsandmilk 13y ago

probably talking about the openconnect CDN, which I don't believe is AWS based. One of the options for openconnect is for the machines to be hosted at the ISP, so that part definitely is not AWS.

cweaver 13y ago

Part of their CDN uses custom boxes based off Backblaze pods. http://gigaom.com/2012/06/06/why-netflixs-cdn-should-scare-the-storage-industry/ http://gigaom.com/2012/06/06/why-netflixs-cdn-should-scare-t...

selmnoo 13y ago

Are HAMR drives commercially available yet? Wiki makes it sound like 60TB HAMR drives will be readily available at low cost for consumers by 2016 or so, do you think that's likely the reality of things?

ck2 13y ago
Seagate is suggesting the first HAMR drive will be a 3.5 inch Barracuda of 7.5TB I think they are taking it gradually. The problem with HAMR is evaporation of the surface film.
jodrellblank 13y ago
Amazing technology in due in 3-5 years? Probably not.

jonknee 13y ago

For computing power, it would be ridiculously expensive to try and use AWS to stream all their video.

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WestCoastJustin 13y ago

Netflix has CDN's they put at peering points, you can read about it here @ https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/tue.lightning1.general.temkin.pdf https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/tue.lightning1.gen... But you can also check out the Netflix open connect site @ https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/hardware https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect/hardware

wmf 13y ago
IIRC the latest version of the CDN is 100% flash, though.
- WestCoastJustin 13y ago
  Yeah, they talk about that on slide #9.
- cperciva 13y ago
  Their newest boxes are 100% flash, but they're still rolling out the older spinning-rust designs. The all-flash boxes are for the most frequently requested movies, in the locations where there's enough traffic to justify them.