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> to live the rest of my estimated 40-50 years on this planet in any way I chose It seems like you quite enjoy what you do. When you retire are you just going

> to live the rest of my estimated 40-50 years on this planet in any way I chose It seems like you quite enjoy what you do. When you retire are you just going to give up that completely? If not maybe it is something you consider. You can earn a pretty healthy salary not working 80 hours a week, and you might get some ideas of what you want to do when you have financial freedom, rather than just slouching in front of the TV because you are too tired from working so hard for the past 15 years. Disclaimer: I'm currently earning >$100k working 40 hours a week doing Rails development. There are smarter people than me out there, there is nothing special about me in that regard. I just don't want to spend every waking minute working at 25.

ryanjshaw 13y ago
On hours: I'm reasonably good at what I do. But there are other things I'd enjoy more. Consider that I work 40-50 hours/week at a normal job, and the remaining 30-40 on escaping the rat race or dealing with this troublesome thing called "life". If I'm in front of a TV, it's with a laptop. On freedom: At 25 and with your income, it's likely you can have plenty of freedom and fun while putting away a fairly decent portion of what you're earning into e.g. ETFs or ETNs and by the time you're my age, 30, you'll have far more freedom than I do. Unfortunately I was pretty naive at 25, and I have people to take care of now, so my only option is go big or go nowhere. I don't really have any comfortable middle-ground.
- lucaspiller 13y ago
  Apologies I think I misread your first post a bit, so my comment may have seemed a bit overly harsh. I don't think the family thing is much of an excuse for having to work 80+ hours though - if anything that should be a reason not to work that hard. I know developers earning what I am, supporting a family like yourself, perfectly happy with their life. I guess it depends what you want though, if you want to send your kids to private school and not have them have to pay for their higher education then of course sacrifices need to be made.

ryanjshaw 13y ago

On hours: I'm reasonably good at what I do. But there are other things I'd enjoy more. Consider that I work 40-50 hours/week at a normal job, and the remaining 30-40 on escaping the rat race or dealing with this troublesome thing called "life". If I'm in front of a TV, it's with a laptop. On freedom: At 25 and with your income, it's likely you can have plenty of freedom and fun while putting away a fairly decent portion of what you're earning into e.g. ETFs or ETNs and by the time you're my age, 30, you'll have far more freedom than I do. Unfortunately I was pretty naive at 25, and I have people to take care of now, so my only option is go big or go nowhere. I don't really have any comfortable middle-ground.

lucaspiller 13y ago
Apologies I think I misread your first post a bit, so my comment may have seemed a bit overly harsh. I don't think the family thing is much of an excuse for having to work 80+ hours though - if anything that should be a reason not to work that hard. I know developers earning what I am, supporting a family like yourself, perfectly happy with their life. I guess it depends what you want though, if you want to send your kids to private school and not have them have to pay for their higher education then of course sacrifices need to be made.