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You are making the classical mistake, equalizing Marxism to the political scene executed by the Soviet Union.. The marxism is much more sophisticated and dee

You are making the classical mistake, equalizing Marxism to the political scene executed by the Soviet Union.. The marxism is much more sophisticated and deep; I think maybe trotsky could make a better socialism.. but even than probably away from the Marx vision But you know, politicians will always think about their own selves in the end of the day, no matter what they say, as long people believe in them.. So, in the day we have real altruistic people on power, things might change for the better... Socialism requires a much more sophisticated politician type. But let me make clear, that i dont defend pure left or pure right.. if nature teach us something is decentralization and and micro-management.. If a government has the tendency to concentrate power, its like a dead body to the crows... it will seduce only the people with fetish for power, and control over the lives and destinies of others.. Thats why the history of world politics has been a greek drama where the weak(and sadly the majority) always lose in the end

gaius 13y ago
No you are making the classical mistake of thinking the combination of Marxism and human nature can play out any other way. The Sovs even knew this themselves, hence their trying to create New Soviet Man (and predictably failing).
- eli_gottlieb 13y ago
  Except, of course, for the fact that the attempt to create the New Capitalist Man has been every bit as much a failure, but we all pretend it's been a wild success because that's the ideology our rulers demand.
  - oscargrouch 13y ago
    Your well made point, make a pretty depressing observation that we still live under the Positivism umbrella (adored and used by "our rulers") where role-models serve as "guide" to shape ordinary people by the owners of the institutions of power at their own will, so they can be easily manipulated. Our society doesnt even get into the Nietzsche philosophical level were we are free of this State+Capital controlled lobotomization ideology where human beings are far away from their freedom and humanity.. which is our fuc$##%ng natural rights for start Its sad that the people that has shaped the last century has listened more to Comte than Nietzsche..

gaius 13y ago

No you are making the classical mistake of thinking the combination of Marxism and human nature can play out any other way. The Sovs even knew this themselves, hence their trying to create New Soviet Man (and predictably failing).

eli_gottlieb 13y ago
Except, of course, for the fact that the attempt to create the New Capitalist Man has been every bit as much a failure, but we all pretend it's been a wild success because that's the ideology our rulers demand.
- oscargrouch 13y ago
  Your well made point, make a pretty depressing observation that we still live under the Positivism umbrella (adored and used by "our rulers") where role-models serve as "guide" to shape ordinary people by the owners of the institutions of power at their own will, so they can be easily manipulated. Our society doesnt even get into the Nietzsche philosophical level were we are free of this State+Capital controlled lobotomization ideology where human beings are far away from their freedom and humanity.. which is our fuc$##%ng natural rights for start Its sad that the people that has shaped the last century has listened more to Comte than Nietzsche..