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You're still arguing against a strawman. The conversation isn't simply about whether or not what prisons do is "exploitation". It's more specific than that. Not
by csallen 13y ago
You're still arguing against a strawman. The conversation isn't simply about whether or not what prisons do is "exploitation". It's more specific than that. Not is it about whether or not prison lobbying is sending undeserving people to jail. If we were to have that discussion I would likely agree with you.
What we're talking about here, however, is whether prison work programs themselves are rehabilitative or exploitative for the prisoners themselves. My claim is that prisons lobbying to get more people into said programs is irrelevant when considering the quality and fairness of the programs themselves.
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- kazagistar 13y agoForced labor is not "fair". It is slavery. I do not accept the idea that by doing a crime, you forfeit your all your human rights. If the programs are entirely optional, it might be OK. As is, it is utterly exploitative.
- csallen 13y agoI happen to agree, and haven't said anything to the contrary. My point is that forced labor isn't fair, and it wouldn't magically become more fair if prison management neglected to campaign for more prisoners. They're two separate issues.