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The major point here is the selection bias. What does it say if someone has a Stanford MBA and is applying for a subordinate role (with sub-5% equity) at your s
by michaelochurch 13y ago
The major point here is the selection bias. What does it say if someone has a Stanford MBA and is applying for a subordinate role (with sub-5% equity) at your startup, instead of private equity jobs? If you aren't making $500k per year (including bonus, and with carried interest) two years after graduating from Harvard or Stanford business school, you're considered a failure-- unless you're founding a wildly successful startup. In the MBA crowd, startups attract people who failed to get a toehold in the more traditional business world, and are looking for second chances. Yes, you'll have to fly commercial for a few years, but you might become a billionaire.
The Columbia MBA who becomes the VP/Finance of your dopey startup (instead of going directly into the smoke-filled rooms and half-million salaries) is going to have a gigantic chip on her shoulder, guaranteed, because she had to be in the bottom 5% of her class to be there.
If you want to be an attractive candidate for startups, and you have an MBA, first you need to succeed on the MBA track for a good 5-10 years, then you need to make a credible case that you've genuinely decided (after a few wins) that you want to take your life -- and that you're not just some carpetbagger who failed out of "real business" and is using the startup world to get a second chance.
Also, I have to agree that business people in startupland massively overvalue themselves. I'm a Tech 8, which means that if I'm looking for a CEO co-founder, I'm looking for a Business 8 (or 9; but since they generally have better negotiation skills, that match is almost impossible for now). I'm not going to take a subordinate role (and 2% equity) to a Business 6. If you're not coming to me with the resources in hand (funding and first clients already lined up) and you're not on a first-name basis with the top names of Sand Hill Road, you're not a Business 8. A Biz 7 comes with resources in hand and can get any article put into credible press; a Biz 8 can make any introduction in the world happen.
To tell the truth, though, Business 8 startup founders are exceedingly rare. They're usually venture capitalists.
- kenster07 13y agoSo if they aren't apparently trying to maximize their personal profits as measured in dollars, then they are failures. That's quite a harsh generalization.
- michaelochurch 13y agoNot necessarily. There are some who go into non-profits or governments, and others who take even more nonconventional paths (additional degrees). They aren't losers. That's hard to pull off given MBA debt, though. The ones who end up at typical startup management jobs are the bottom of the class, though. They weren't good enough for stat-arb hedge funds or billion-dollar deals, so they got stuck managing nerds. If someone 10 years out of an MBA program with some success to his name said that he wanted to run a tech startup, I'd be inclined to support him. On the other hand, if he was a fresh Stanford grad and couldn't do better than a VP-level position at a Series A or B startup, I'd be inclined to think he was a third-stringer.