I am not arguing the merits or details of the ACA. That's pointless at this stage of the game. You can go argue that with someone who might be interested. I

I am not arguing the merits or details of the ACA. That's pointless at this stage of the game. You can go argue that with someone who might be interested. I am not. What I am highlighting here is that, due to the ACA, for the first time our nation is seeing in all it's splendor how things are done in government and how ugly all of it is. Add to this the horrible NSA stuff and other issues and, well, I just can't see how anyone with a true and solid moral and ethical compass could be for more government control of our lives rather than less. I want younger HN'ers to realize that this, exactly this, is how EVERYTHING, in government is done. It is wasteful. Incompetent. Inefficient. Intrusive. And it should scare all of you. Take the US budget and imagine that nearly every program and every line item is executed in exactly this fashion or worst. What do you think we could have done with six hundred million dollars. I am not talking about the ACA. I give you six hundred million dollars to spend --efficiently-- in anything you want. Would you burn it this way? Would you spend it on a pointless war? I would hope not. Only government can pull off something like this and then go on TV and make it sound like they are doing a good job. In the real world people would get fired and a number of them would face fraud and other charges. Again, I don't care about what you want to discuss. For all I know you are absolutely right. I am simply using the parade of insanity marching before us --all sides, all political corners-- to illustrate that for the first time we all get to really see how things work. That's it. It's the only take-away.