IIRC, Fireworks would do code generation. I'm pretty sure that was the big selling point for some colleagues back in ... 1999? They were so awestruck that it

IIRC, Fireworks would do code generation. I'm pretty sure that was the big selling point for some colleagues back in ... 1999? They were so awestruck that it would generate code for anything they threw at it. I was dumbstruck by 1) how bad the generated code was (a la FrontPage) and 2) how backwards some of the stuff they were trying to design was (making the code that much worse). I know in the right hands, 'design first' in visual tools can lead to great web sites. Especially back in those days, however, visual artists were almost exclusively just visual/photoshop/paper oriented, and regardless of what they did, you were just expected to hack it up in to HTML, regardless of whether it was even possible or not. I far prefer working with graphic design folks who can at least do the basics of HTML/CSS, so they understand what's possible (and optimal) vs what Photoshop from 2000 is capable of letting them draw on the screen :)