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The idea that Apple is using to go on the offensive because they are "failing in the marketplace" is ridiculous, since extensive patents were touted during the

The idea that Apple is using to go on the offensive because they are "failing in the marketplace" is ridiculous, since extensive patents were touted during the iPhone's 2007 introductory keynote. Also, what evidence is there that Google is still committed to making Android open source even since Andy Rubin left the project? Finally, I don't know enough about Andy Rubin's relationship with Apple, but can somebody who does comment on this? http://www.fosspatents.com/2011/09/apple-to-itc-andy-rubin-got-inspiration.html http://www.fosspatents.com/2011/09/apple-to-itc-andy-rubin-g...

icebraining 13y ago
Also, what evidence is there that Google is still committed to making Android open source even since Andy Rubin left the project? https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+/kitkat-release https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+/kitkat-relea...
- pazimzadeh 13y ago
  As I understand it, most of Android's new features are coming in the form of proprietary apps rather than AOSP. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6656764 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6656764
cageface 13y ago
There's a world of difference between filing protective patents and using patents offensively against your competitors. Until fairly recently, this was considered to be something that was largely beneath the dignity of the big players in the industry. And, even if Android were completely closed, it would still occupy the higher moral ground since Google did not instigate this war and would be happy to see it end.
- pazimzadeh 13y ago
  What if to Apple, the war started when Eric Schmidt stayed on Apple's board of directors while Google was developing a direct competitor to the iPhone?
  - cageface 13y ago
    Or perhaps, earlier still, when Apple revealed their intention to roll out a platform over which they had complete gatekeeper control over any third party software installation?

icebraining 13y ago

Also, what evidence is there that Google is still committed to making Android open source even since Andy Rubin left the project? https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+/kitkat-release https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+/kitkat-relea...

pazimzadeh 13y ago
As I understand it, most of Android's new features are coming in the form of proprietary apps rather than AOSP. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6656764 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6656764

cageface 13y ago

There's a world of difference between filing protective patents and using patents offensively against your competitors. Until fairly recently, this was considered to be something that was largely beneath the dignity of the big players in the industry. And, even if Android were completely closed, it would still occupy the higher moral ground since Google did not instigate this war and would be happy to see it end.

pazimzadeh 13y ago
What if to Apple, the war started when Eric Schmidt stayed on Apple's board of directors while Google was developing a direct competitor to the iPhone?
- cageface 13y ago
  Or perhaps, earlier still, when Apple revealed their intention to roll out a platform over which they had complete gatekeeper control over any third party software installation?