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Life very rarely presents us with simple black & white choices, but that doesn't mean that it's not important to make distinctions among distinctly different sh

Life very rarely presents us with simple black & white choices, but that doesn't mean that it's not important to make distinctions among distinctly different shades of gray. Don't let party apparatchiks like Gruber fool you with their smoke & mirrors. This is nothing more than an attempt by Apple & Microsoft to accomplish in the courtroom what they have failed to achieve in the marketplace. We have it straight from the Cupertino horse's mouth that this is a "nuclear war" designed to destroy Android. If this succeeds it will set a very dangerous and chilling precedent for the development of any new technology going forward. Anyone that claims to value innovation and opportunity for new ideas should condemn it.

pazimzadeh 13y ago
The idea that Apple is using to go on the offensive because they are "failing in the marketplace" is ridiculous, since extensive patents were touted during the iPhone's 2007 introductory keynote. Also, what evidence is there that Google is still committed to making Android open source even since Andy Rubin left the project? Finally, I don't know enough about Andy Rubin's relationship with Apple, but can somebody who does comment on this? http://www.fosspatents.com/2011/09/apple-to-itc-andy-rubin-got-inspiration.html http://www.fosspatents.com/2011/09/apple-to-itc-andy-rubin-g...
- icebraining 13y ago
  Also, what evidence is there that Google is still committed to making Android open source even since Andy Rubin left the project? https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+/kitkat-release https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+/kitkat-relea...
  - pazimzadeh 13y ago
    As I understand it, most of Android's new features are coming in the form of proprietary apps rather than AOSP. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6656764 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6656764
- cageface 13y ago
  There's a world of difference between filing protective patents and using patents offensively against your competitors. Until fairly recently, this was considered to be something that was largely beneath the dignity of the big players in the industry. And, even if Android were completely closed, it would still occupy the higher moral ground since Google did not instigate this war and would be happy to see it end.
  - pazimzadeh 13y ago
    What if to Apple, the war started when Eric Schmidt stayed on Apple's board of directors while Google was developing a direct competitor to the iPhone?
    - cageface 13y ago
      Or perhaps, earlier still, when Apple revealed their intention to roll out a platform over which they had complete gatekeeper control over any third party software installation?

pazimzadeh 13y ago

The idea that Apple is using to go on the offensive because they are "failing in the marketplace" is ridiculous, since extensive patents were touted during the iPhone's 2007 introductory keynote. Also, what evidence is there that Google is still committed to making Android open source even since Andy Rubin left the project? Finally, I don't know enough about Andy Rubin's relationship with Apple, but can somebody who does comment on this? http://www.fosspatents.com/2011/09/apple-to-itc-andy-rubin-got-inspiration.html http://www.fosspatents.com/2011/09/apple-to-itc-andy-rubin-g...

icebraining 13y ago
Also, what evidence is there that Google is still committed to making Android open source even since Andy Rubin left the project? https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+/kitkat-release https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+/kitkat-relea...
- pazimzadeh 13y ago
  As I understand it, most of Android's new features are coming in the form of proprietary apps rather than AOSP. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6656764 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6656764
cageface 13y ago
There's a world of difference between filing protective patents and using patents offensively against your competitors. Until fairly recently, this was considered to be something that was largely beneath the dignity of the big players in the industry. And, even if Android were completely closed, it would still occupy the higher moral ground since Google did not instigate this war and would be happy to see it end.
- pazimzadeh 13y ago
  What if to Apple, the war started when Eric Schmidt stayed on Apple's board of directors while Google was developing a direct competitor to the iPhone?
  - cageface 13y ago
    Or perhaps, earlier still, when Apple revealed their intention to roll out a platform over which they had complete gatekeeper control over any third party software installation?