> to make kids do And now most people (including you) also deny that the "kids" possess free will. I argue that this act is far more cruel than hiring someone

> to make kids do And now most people (including you) also deny that the "kids" possess free will. I argue that this act is far more cruel than hiring someone to sail. And once again you take our society's ludicrous definition of "kid" as a given, as though it were an obvious law of nature that we turn from livestock into human beings instantly at age 18.