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That means that Google will have information on its server covering all phone calls I make, and at what time. That is way beyond what is acceptable, for me.

ZoFreX 13y ago
Really? I make like... 3 calls a week from my phone, generally of low importance. I deal in hundreds of emails which range from the trivial to bank account details. Why would I trust Google with the latter and not the former?
- pedrocr 13y ago
  Being an Android user doesn't imply being a Gmail user.
  - e40 13y ago
    For like 99% of Android users it does.
    - gbog 13y ago
      Here in China people barely use emails and never use gmail, and most run android. Or maybe your note needs to add "in my little personal tiny slice of the world" context?
      - Apocryphon 13y ago
        Wait, what? What do people in China use instead of emails? Do they just use SMS all of the time?
        hayksaakian 13y ago
        educate yourself http://news.yahoo.com/android-huge-china-google-control-035903534.html http://news.yahoo.com/android-huge-china-google-control-0359...
        alextingle 13y ago
        In what way does that link answer the question? Just to reiterate: What do people in China use instead of e-mail?
        gbog 13y ago
        They use message services such as QQ and WeChat.
        joesb 13y ago
        Are you saying they use messaging service instead of Email? Citation please? Most people use both messaging service and email, each for different purpose. For example, it's easier to create new topic with email. It's easier to attach a file. It can be automate for mailing list and have easier address for support email. How does QQ or WeChat replace that in China?
        gbog 13y ago
        Sorry, not convenient to search the topic on my phone, but it is kind of common knowledge in China. Our young and old nannies all use qq, and they probably have an email attached to their account but do not know it. many colleagues and friends even with higher education rarely check their mail, maybe reuse a week. So you'd ask, how to share contacts? All goes through the phone number, every one has one and know it. Qq is much more than our text messaging, it can share files, and is easier than mail for that. When I hear all the fuss about fixing email I can't help but think that it is already fixed in China.
- Brakenshire 13y ago
  And, of course, I already give the same information to my phone company. But really it's an issue of combining that data with what Google already knows about me (location throughout the day through Android location services, phonebook through Android sync, gmail, web search history, web browsing history through its tracker network, and so on). I do appreciate that my argument and my actual use of the internet are inconsistent, my only defence is I am just in the process of working out how to move to some different services, to at least fragment where I'm sending my data.
MAGZine 13y ago
For advertisments, maybe. If they were interested in privacy, it wouldn't be difficult to fetch top-10,000 information for municipalities you live in. It could pre-fetch data for future locales if it sees you have a plane ticket somewhere... just a thought. I doubt Google could provide you relevant feedback for a private phone number 2,000 miles away anyhow--that would basically be just trolling for information.
ryanhuff 13y ago
Since Google apps tie into Google plus, how long before Google touts how every phone call made to and from an android phone is a G+ activity? Sounds like a huge headline opportunity to me. [Edit] Thinking more about this, and how G+, gmail and hangouts are melding together, you have to wonder how Google plans to leverage this new feature/info. Will people who call me suddenly appear in my gmail IM list as contacts?
- redler 13y ago
  Are "phone calls" between Android users with sufficiently up-to-date versions of the OS routed entirely over the internet as G+ voice chats? iOS bypasses carrier SMS with iMessage, and, I think, Facetime audio-only calls between capable devices. Seems like the next logical progression.
  - justincormack 13y ago
    No. This would be rather noticeable as depends on data connection quality. Apple diverting SMS is somewhat less error prone.

ZoFreX 13y ago

Really? I make like... 3 calls a week from my phone, generally of low importance. I deal in hundreds of emails which range from the trivial to bank account details. Why would I trust Google with the latter and not the former?

pedrocr 13y ago
Being an Android user doesn't imply being a Gmail user.
- e40 13y ago
  For like 99% of Android users it does.
  - gbog 13y ago
    Here in China people barely use emails and never use gmail, and most run android. Or maybe your note needs to add "in my little personal tiny slice of the world" context?
    - Apocryphon 13y ago
      Wait, what? What do people in China use instead of emails? Do they just use SMS all of the time?
      - hayksaakian 13y ago
        educate yourself http://news.yahoo.com/android-huge-china-google-control-035903534.html http://news.yahoo.com/android-huge-china-google-control-0359...
        alextingle 13y ago
        In what way does that link answer the question? Just to reiterate: What do people in China use instead of e-mail?
        gbog 13y ago
        They use message services such as QQ and WeChat.
        joesb 13y ago
        Are you saying they use messaging service instead of Email? Citation please? Most people use both messaging service and email, each for different purpose. For example, it's easier to create new topic with email. It's easier to attach a file. It can be automate for mailing list and have easier address for support email. How does QQ or WeChat replace that in China?
        gbog 13y ago
        Sorry, not convenient to search the topic on my phone, but it is kind of common knowledge in China. Our young and old nannies all use qq, and they probably have an email attached to their account but do not know it. many colleagues and friends even with higher education rarely check their mail, maybe reuse a week. So you'd ask, how to share contacts? All goes through the phone number, every one has one and know it. Qq is much more than our text messaging, it can share files, and is easier than mail for that. When I hear all the fuss about fixing email I can't help but think that it is already fixed in China.
Brakenshire 13y ago
And, of course, I already give the same information to my phone company. But really it's an issue of combining that data with what Google already knows about me (location throughout the day through Android location services, phonebook through Android sync, gmail, web search history, web browsing history through its tracker network, and so on). I do appreciate that my argument and my actual use of the internet are inconsistent, my only defence is I am just in the process of working out how to move to some different services, to at least fragment where I'm sending my data.

MAGZine 13y ago

For advertisments, maybe. If they were interested in privacy, it wouldn't be difficult to fetch top-10,000 information for municipalities you live in. It could pre-fetch data for future locales if it sees you have a plane ticket somewhere... just a thought. I doubt Google could provide you relevant feedback for a private phone number 2,000 miles away anyhow--that would basically be just trolling for information.

ryanhuff 13y ago

Since Google apps tie into Google plus, how long before Google touts how every phone call made to and from an android phone is a G+ activity? Sounds like a huge headline opportunity to me. [Edit] Thinking more about this, and how G+, gmail and hangouts are melding together, you have to wonder how Google plans to leverage this new feature/info. Will people who call me suddenly appear in my gmail IM list as contacts?

redler 13y ago
Are "phone calls" between Android users with sufficiently up-to-date versions of the OS routed entirely over the internet as G+ voice chats? iOS bypasses carrier SMS with iMessage, and, I think, Facetime audio-only calls between capable devices. Seems like the next logical progression.
- justincormack 13y ago
  No. This would be rather noticeable as depends on data connection quality. Apple diverting SMS is somewhat less error prone.