3 ms·

That's some pretty slippery slope there. I'm sure many people posted "I like it, thousands die in WTC crash, and your priority is hypothetical restrictions on y

That's some pretty slippery slope there. I'm sure many people posted "I like it, thousands die in WTC crash, and your priority is hypothetical restrictions on your rights" shortly after 9/11, and look at where we are now...

Jtsummers 13y ago
So mine is slippery slope reasoning, but "Oh god, not another shooting, assholes are fucking it up for the rest of us now I won't be able to buy a gun" isn't? EDIT: We're at 17 school shootings this year with 17 dead, 21 wounded. Are gun control advocates significantly closer, with dead children as their evidence and motivation, to getting rid of gun rights? In this circumstance it's two dead adults, granted in a very public place. Gun control advocates have all the ammunition, so to speak, to achieve their goals if they're ever going to achieve them this incident or another tomorrow is not going to change the equation.
- koenigdavidmj 13y ago
  Just a few weeks ago California was a governor's signature away from banning semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines. In other words, nearly every modern rifle in existence.
  - Jtsummers 13y ago
    Perhaps because I live in the South I've not seen some of the impact, but why did the governor not sign the law? What was the expected enforceability/constitutionality of the law?
    - koenigdavidmj 13y ago
      http://gov.ca.gov/docs/SB_374_2013_Veto_Message.pdf http://gov.ca.gov/docs/SB_374_2013_Veto_Message.pdf That's his letter stating his decision.
      - Jtsummers 13y ago
        Thanks, so he vetoed it based on a belief that it went too far in restricting a right while not providing sufficients benefit in terms of gains in public safety.
    - wil421 13y ago
      I'm in the South too and many people that I know enjoy being safe with their guns. Instead of outlawing gun control how about we outlaw crazy people from carrying them. Or better yet hold the parents of children responsible who go off and do shootings in schools. If they let their kid stockpile weapons in their basement then they should be responsible in some way for what their child does. (I am talking about Columbine type stuff, not the LAX shooting)

Jtsummers 13y ago

So mine is slippery slope reasoning, but "Oh god, not another shooting, assholes are fucking it up for the rest of us now I won't be able to buy a gun" isn't? EDIT: We're at 17 school shootings this year with 17 dead, 21 wounded. Are gun control advocates significantly closer, with dead children as their evidence and motivation, to getting rid of gun rights? In this circumstance it's two dead adults, granted in a very public place. Gun control advocates have all the ammunition, so to speak, to achieve their goals if they're ever going to achieve them this incident or another tomorrow is not going to change the equation.

koenigdavidmj 13y ago
Just a few weeks ago California was a governor's signature away from banning semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines. In other words, nearly every modern rifle in existence.
- Jtsummers 13y ago
  Perhaps because I live in the South I've not seen some of the impact, but why did the governor not sign the law? What was the expected enforceability/constitutionality of the law?
  - koenigdavidmj 13y ago
    http://gov.ca.gov/docs/SB_374_2013_Veto_Message.pdf http://gov.ca.gov/docs/SB_374_2013_Veto_Message.pdf That's his letter stating his decision.
    - Jtsummers 13y ago
      Thanks, so he vetoed it based on a belief that it went too far in restricting a right while not providing sufficients benefit in terms of gains in public safety.
  - wil421 13y ago
    I'm in the South too and many people that I know enjoy being safe with their guns. Instead of outlawing gun control how about we outlaw crazy people from carrying them. Or better yet hold the parents of children responsible who go off and do shootings in schools. If they let their kid stockpile weapons in their basement then they should be responsible in some way for what their child does. (I am talking about Columbine type stuff, not the LAX shooting)