I think the idea of a "meaningless benchmark" has become a dogma. Can you possibly know all the complexities that an app will contain when benchmarking a framew

I think the idea of a "meaningless benchmark" has become a dogma. Can you possibly know all the complexities that an app will contain when benchmarking a framework? No, but that doesn't make baseline benchmarks useless. Part of the reason for including the most basic (CRUD-ish) operations as separate benchmarks in their tests is so that you can make comparisons between basic "Hello, World" operations and more complex operations, which gives you a bit more insight into the overhead of each framework. I'll take that any day, over guessing which framework is fastest.