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Android KitKat set to crush Apple?

5 points by versusdotcom 13y ago

rustyf 13y ago
Your skin deep assessment of the Apple model so misses the point. What's that old saying? "Less is more". Apple understands this - the Android ecosystem doesn't.
- dman 13y ago
  Did microsoft know the saying in 90s while it laughed its way all the way to the bank?
- piyush_soni 13y ago
  And that's why they have captured 80% of the smartphone market of the world ... oh wait ...
mattkrea 13y ago
"The only thing iOS does to improve is steal old ideas from Android and other operating systems." Every time I see this I get irritated. What Apple does is take technology out there and do it better than anyone else. This is why they are the most valuable company and continue to make excellent product. When I have to deal with an Android device at the office I feel immediate disgust because they all suffer the same flaws. * An OS that can hardly run well on any hardware * Garbage build quality * Too much customization * Vendor and carrier bloat
- dman 13y ago
  Have you used the HTC One?
  - mattkrea 13y ago
    Not yet. I believe the most recent (tablet or phone) was the Nexus 2. I did hear nice things about the One however. EDIT: I was referring to the Nexus tablet that came out not long ago (though we do have a Nexus 7 at the company also)
    - dman 13y ago
      Whats wrong with the Nexus 7 v2 ? (I havent used it myself).
      - mattkrea 13y ago
        It was a significant improvement. Hardware was much better all around. The biggest thing for me was that even as a recent device I still see a noticeable screen lag as I scroll on it. Of course the rest of the problems are OS-related (even vanilla).
  - abdophoto 13y ago
    I've been using an HTC One alongside my iPhone 5 for several months. When you first see it, you think "oh, this is great hardware, it's not far off from the iPhone." But then you live with it and use it and you realize it's a far cry from Apple hardware. One example is with the hardware buttons. They are so flush against the body (both the sleep/wake and volume), that you almost always have to look to see what you're doing. I can't blindly turn down or up the volume nor can I wake up the phone in my pocket before I take it out like I do on my iPhone.
    - dman 13y ago
      I think in the grand scheme of things that is a very minor complaint and a testament to how far android and in this case HTC have come.
hxw 13y ago
iOs still has a higher adoption rate than Android. The App Store is still number one in revenue. No, this will not crush Apple.
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  Yes, App Store is number one in revenue. Android has something around %80 of the smartphone market. Higher adoption rate? Laughable. Not because Android is better, but because its cheaper.
  - mattkrea 13y ago
    The feature phone of this generation.
  - deleted 13y ago
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- piyush_soni 13y ago
  Yes, this might not crush Apple, the article itself doesn't make much sense. The App store, however is number one in the revenue not because it's "better", it's mainly because Apple users are rich (and more likely girls) [1][2][3], and most Apple users buy their iPhones as a 'show off' device than a thing they want to use to its extent. Of course, rich people buy more. They don't buy because they need, they buy because they want. Rich girls will continue to exist. [1]: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20092784-71/study-android-users-sad-hicks-iphone-users-rich-girls/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20092784-71/study-android-... [2]: http://www.theatlanticcities.com/jobs-and-economy/2013/06/map-iphone-users-any-city-and-you-know-where-rich-live/5961/ http://www.theatlanticcities.com/jobs-and-economy/2013/06/ma... [3]: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/06/iphone_owners_high_income_education/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/06/iphone_owners_high_i...
  - matdrewin 13y ago
    So basically the upper class uses iPhones, and that is bad because...?
i386 13y ago
"Google have built something technically equivalent to a trusted household brand. For starters, Android KitKat builds brand power on top of existing brand power via a licensing deal with Nestlé" You cannot accrete X no . of brands and somehow end up with more "Brand Power" unless the optics are right. KitKat and mobile devices are unrelated save for Googles running gag on Android code names - something which the majority of customers are not aware of and don't care about. The author is really scraping the bottom of the barrel to support his argument.
huxley 13y ago
"... the future doesn’t look so bright for Apple, who are currently sitting on an enormous amount of unsold stock" What unsold stock are they referring to?

5 points by versusdotcom 13y ago

Your skin deep assessment of the Apple model so misses the point. What's that old saying? "Less is more". Apple understands this - the Android ecosystem doesn't.

dman 13y ago
Did microsoft know the saying in 90s while it laughed its way all the way to the bank?
piyush_soni 13y ago
And that's why they have captured 80% of the smartphone market of the world ... oh wait ...

mattkrea 13y ago

"The only thing iOS does to improve is steal old ideas from Android and other operating systems." Every time I see this I get irritated. What Apple does is take technology out there and do it better than anyone else. This is why they are the most valuable company and continue to make excellent product. When I have to deal with an Android device at the office I feel immediate disgust because they all suffer the same flaws. * An OS that can hardly run well on any hardware * Garbage build quality * Too much customization * Vendor and carrier bloat

dman 13y ago
Have you used the HTC One?
- mattkrea 13y ago
  Not yet. I believe the most recent (tablet or phone) was the Nexus 2. I did hear nice things about the One however. EDIT: I was referring to the Nexus tablet that came out not long ago (though we do have a Nexus 7 at the company also)
  - dman 13y ago
    Whats wrong with the Nexus 7 v2 ? (I havent used it myself).
    - mattkrea 13y ago
      It was a significant improvement. Hardware was much better all around. The biggest thing for me was that even as a recent device I still see a noticeable screen lag as I scroll on it. Of course the rest of the problems are OS-related (even vanilla).
- abdophoto 13y ago
  I've been using an HTC One alongside my iPhone 5 for several months. When you first see it, you think "oh, this is great hardware, it's not far off from the iPhone." But then you live with it and use it and you realize it's a far cry from Apple hardware. One example is with the hardware buttons. They are so flush against the body (both the sleep/wake and volume), that you almost always have to look to see what you're doing. I can't blindly turn down or up the volume nor can I wake up the phone in my pocket before I take it out like I do on my iPhone.
  - dman 13y ago
    I think in the grand scheme of things that is a very minor complaint and a testament to how far android and in this case HTC have come.

hxw 13y ago

iOs still has a higher adoption rate than Android. The App Store is still number one in revenue. No, this will not crush Apple.

toomuchtodo 13y ago
Yes, App Store is number one in revenue. Android has something around %80 of the smartphone market. Higher adoption rate? Laughable. Not because Android is better, but because its cheaper.
- mattkrea 13y ago
  The feature phone of this generation.
- deleted 13y ago
  [deleted]
piyush_soni 13y ago
Yes, this might not crush Apple, the article itself doesn't make much sense. The App store, however is number one in the revenue not because it's "better", it's mainly because Apple users are rich (and more likely girls) [1][2][3], and most Apple users buy their iPhones as a 'show off' device than a thing they want to use to its extent. Of course, rich people buy more. They don't buy because they need, they buy because they want. Rich girls will continue to exist. [1]: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20092784-71/study-android-users-sad-hicks-iphone-users-rich-girls/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20092784-71/study-android-... [2]: http://www.theatlanticcities.com/jobs-and-economy/2013/06/map-iphone-users-any-city-and-you-know-where-rich-live/5961/ http://www.theatlanticcities.com/jobs-and-economy/2013/06/ma... [3]: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/06/iphone_owners_high_income_education/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/06/iphone_owners_high_i...
- matdrewin 13y ago
  So basically the upper class uses iPhones, and that is bad because...?

i386 13y ago

"Google have built something technically equivalent to a trusted household brand. For starters, Android KitKat builds brand power on top of existing brand power via a licensing deal with Nestlé" You cannot accrete X no . of brands and somehow end up with more "Brand Power" unless the optics are right. KitKat and mobile devices are unrelated save for Googles running gag on Android code names - something which the majority of customers are not aware of and don't care about. The author is really scraping the bottom of the barrel to support his argument.

huxley 13y ago

"... the future doesn’t look so bright for Apple, who are currently sitting on an enormous amount of unsold stock" What unsold stock are they referring to?