That's not a counterpoint in poor-person logic. It's a counterpoint in you-the-guy-who-has-more-correct-assumptions logic. This is what I'm trying to get acro

That's not a counterpoint in poor-person logic. It's a counterpoint in you-the-guy-who-has-more-correct-assumptions logic. This is what I'm trying to get across with my posts on this topic. People keep using reasoning from within a higher-class group where you already know the rules and assumptions of the game. The whole point is that the people below don't.