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The article was going along nicely until the huge bright orange banner came down asking me to vote on HN. I just couldn't read any more after that, it was simpl

The article was going along nicely until the huge bright orange banner came down asking me to vote on HN. I just couldn't read any more after that, it was simply too distracting and I couldn't get rid of it. I don't criticize attempting to get some upvotes, but please consider doing it in a less intrusive manner.

grinnick 13y ago
I agree that the color is too bright. There's sometimes a fine line between being intrusive and not being noticed at all. For example, I don't show the banner until you're 30% of the way through the article because I don't want to annoy people who haven't even started reading (and thus have got zero value). The orange banner will disappear mods remove the ?ref=hn from the URL. I'm the author obviously.
- luxpir 13y ago
  I'm not sure 30% content vs vote now is the fairest trade-off, but kudos for holding off a little :) Just noticed your family name is Tuite. Even if you don't pronounce it as 'Tweet' IRL you really could have fun with that online. Tuite by name... (etc.). I'm sure you might have noticed.
  - grinnick 13y ago
    Haha hadn't thought of that actually. Only added the banner recently. I'll experiment with only showing it further into the content.
- netnichols 13y ago
  You're certainly right that it can be a fine line. I personally would respond better if there would be simple, static, highlighted boxes at the top and bottom of the article, that scrolled with the article.
- anthonycerra 13y ago
  You planned that using logic, but people's emotions don't react to logic. It's an emotion after all. I thought it was obtrusive as well and didn't realize how far into the article I was. The only thought I had was "this is in my way and there's more to read." All that being said, just do a split test :) Maybe people like me are in the minority and you get more upvotes for having it displayed that way.
  - grinnick 13y ago
    I think I will try to split test it actually. If I do, I'll make sure to post the results on HN with an even larger orange banner! ;-)
luxpir 13y ago
I've got noscript running, so I didn't see it. Goes nicely with my point though - treat your readers with respect. Some crowds are more sensitive to it than others, but even those who don't notice any foul play shouldn't have their ignorance abused? Of course some people will want easy ways to do things, which I completely understand. It's just normally the case of someone trying to drum up business, rather than millions of users wanting easier access to that person/service.

grinnick 13y ago

I agree that the color is too bright. There's sometimes a fine line between being intrusive and not being noticed at all. For example, I don't show the banner until you're 30% of the way through the article because I don't want to annoy people who haven't even started reading (and thus have got zero value). The orange banner will disappear mods remove the ?ref=hn from the URL. I'm the author obviously.

luxpir 13y ago
I'm not sure 30% content vs vote now is the fairest trade-off, but kudos for holding off a little :) Just noticed your family name is Tuite. Even if you don't pronounce it as 'Tweet' IRL you really could have fun with that online. Tuite by name... (etc.). I'm sure you might have noticed.
- grinnick 13y ago
  Haha hadn't thought of that actually. Only added the banner recently. I'll experiment with only showing it further into the content.
netnichols 13y ago
You're certainly right that it can be a fine line. I personally would respond better if there would be simple, static, highlighted boxes at the top and bottom of the article, that scrolled with the article.
anthonycerra 13y ago
You planned that using logic, but people's emotions don't react to logic. It's an emotion after all. I thought it was obtrusive as well and didn't realize how far into the article I was. The only thought I had was "this is in my way and there's more to read." All that being said, just do a split test :) Maybe people like me are in the minority and you get more upvotes for having it displayed that way.
- grinnick 13y ago
  I think I will try to split test it actually. If I do, I'll make sure to post the results on HN with an even larger orange banner! ;-)

luxpir 13y ago

I've got noscript running, so I didn't see it. Goes nicely with my point though - treat your readers with respect. Some crowds are more sensitive to it than others, but even those who don't notice any foul play shouldn't have their ignorance abused? Of course some people will want easy ways to do things, which I completely understand. It's just normally the case of someone trying to drum up business, rather than millions of users wanting easier access to that person/service.