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"With all due respect, what are 99 percent of people gaining from a book on, say, convex optimization? Yes, these are great choices if you're looking to become
by TriinT 17y ago
"With all due respect, what are 99 percent of people gaining from a book on, say, convex optimization? Yes, these are great choices if you're looking to become an expert on, say, physics. But not everyone is a physicist, nor does everyone need to be."
Convex Optimization for physicists??? Whaaaat? OK, consider Game Theory, Machine Learning, Operations Research. All have practical value and all require optimization. In fact, Machine Learning is mostly applied optimization theory. The Simplex algorithm is used all the time, in the most various industries. Yet once again, the need to know a bit of optimization theory is made evident.
Physicists don't really require the kind of optimization on Boyd's book. Unless one is an experimental physicist and needs to analyze data sets. Theoretical physicists usually work with infinite-dimensional optimization, i.e., variational analysis. I entirely agree that not everyone is a physicist, nor does everyone need to be... but picking Convex Optimization as an example was a poor choice.
The list is my personal list. It's a personal thing, and as such, it is non-transmissible. I am not trying to preach. I couldn't care less if the masses read junk...
- michael_nielsen 17y agoConvex optimization is a standard tool for theoretical physicists doing quantum information and quantum computing. And B & V is the standard reference. (Don't want to engage in the main debate, but I think this is an interesting tidbit of information. It's an example where a part of mathematics has recently become useful in an unexpected way.)
- TriinT 17y agoWow! I didn't know that! Thanks for the info. I know nothing on QIT / QC, but it's interesting and intriguing to see finite-dimensional optimization being used by physics people.
- eugenejen 17y agoSometimes I wonder the case is when we meet any new problem, we first try to fit it into any existing framework in order to understand it, until the framework is broken. This doesn't debase the beauty of math. But I just feel maybe we just need an excuse to fund mathematicians.
- newsio 17y agoThis is why I love Hacker News. Where else could I expect tp see this sort of debate in the course of casual browsing? (well, maybe Metafilter, but I'd have to pony up $5 to leave a comment)