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Almost a year ago to the day, The Economist ran a leader ([1], also cited at the bottom of the OP) that described itself as "radical centerist", blatantly "stea
by antics 13y ago
Almost a year ago to the day, The Economist ran a leader ([1], also cited at the bottom of the OP) that described itself as "radical centerist", blatantly "stealing" ideas from both right and left. The surprisingly poor article posted here not only fails to clarify or improve this position, but actually muddies the waters of discourse, because it fails to spell out what it means when it uses terms like "left-wing" and "conservative". These definitions are particular and subtle, and it is worth explaining what The Economist actually means in this article. This is especially true given the international audience of the paper (and HN), where these terms sometimes appear to mean contradictory things.
I won't pretend to be a master political theoretician, so corrections are welcome, but at a high level here is what is going on.
In most of political theory, the spectrum breaks down roughly into two huge types of political party (and yes this is a massive generalization):
* those on the right wing, which are typically fiscally liberal and socially conservative, that is, they believe that companies should behave as they like, but people need to be told how to behave even in their private lives, and
* those on the left wing, which are mainly socially liberal, that is, they believe that the government should tax and regulate more heavily, but that people should be able to do what they like privately.
Across the globe what it means to be "a liberal" is different. In the US, the "liberal" signifier refers to the fact that the person believes that the government should not regulate personal decisions like gay marriage. In France, it is the opposite: the "liberal" signifer refers to the fact that they like less regulation on the markets.
The Economist, simply put, is liberal in the sense that it tends to favor less regulation on both these fronts: it favors legalization of drugs and gay marriage, but also less regulation for markets.
There are of course exceptions (it favors gun regulation for example), but this is basically the position that it has come to call "radical centerism". The magazine is often called libertarian, but only conveniently so -- the gun control exception in particular casts this supposition into doubt, and rather than accept this branding, the editorial staff has evidently decided to pick this new title.
This is probably the right move. For all its flaws, this is something that the article did get right.
[1] http://www.economist.com/node/21564556 http://www.economist.com/node/21564556
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- Perceval 13y ago> In most of political theory, the spectrum breaks down roughly into two… As a Ph.D. candidate in a top tier political science program, let me just stop you here and assure you that whatever follows is almost certainly categorically incorrect. Political theory is so wildly diverse that one strains to appreciate the relevance of large chunks of it, but it, without a doubt, does not generally/roughly/approximately break down into the positions of the U.S.'s two major parties. > I won't pretend to be a master political theoretician, but… This is kinda like when someone starts a sentence, "I don't want to be an asshole, but…" or "I'm not a racist, but…" or "I don't want to interrupt, but…". Please don't pretend to be a political theorist.
- antics 13y agoThanks for the spirited reply, Perceval, but I don't see a place where you justify a disagreement with the substance of my position. What I do see is you bragging about your acceptance to a nice school. Not to belabor the obvious, but lording your supposed superiority over opponents is not a good way to conduct a discussion. Maybe the first part is going in the direction of a productive discussion -- are you complaining that the split between "right wing" and "left wing" is so general as to lose all salience to the discussion at hand? I assume that can't be your position, because that's pretty obviously wrong.
- Perceval 13y ago> lording your supposed superiority over opponents is not a good way to conduct a discussion. It wasn't really an invitation to discussion. > the split between "right wing" and "left wing" is so general as to lose all salience No, the left–right split is just fine for talking about U.S. politics. It becomes more problematic when you begin to include other countries whose political divisions split along different issues. But it becomes almost totally useless if you try to shoehorn "most of political theory" into two categories based on only two criteria (social, fiscal) that, gosh, just happen to match up with the two present day U.S. political parties.