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Things like this make me wish there was a law against companies attempting to counter or restict information on customers legal rights.

by rmc 13y ago

MichaelApproved 13y ago
We don't need laws against this. We already have existing and satisfactory avenues that expose these types of business practices. Good journalism and websites like Hacker News do a better job than a law regarding this type of practice ever could.
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- logicallee 13y ago
  I'm not saying you're wrong, but please don't be so casual with this audience's time. For example, should we have to do vigilante investigation of every company everywhere? Obviously consumer rights have to be balanced with the first amendment - and for this reason, I don't think your parent's proposal is clear enough to become a law. It's super-vague. But don't for a second be so generous in saying that we should take the burden on instead. I don't want to have to read about underage workers, credit card fraud by companies, carcinogenic additives, gross marketing misrepresentation, or any number of other practices that are simply illegal. Moreover even if someone did want to read about them here, we couldn't police the world's 125M companies. This is totally literally what laws are for.
  - rmc 13y ago
    This original story was about information about the warranty in the EU. So I don't think the first amendment of the US constitution applies in this case. (And yes, it's a vague quick suggestion, this is a discussion board, we're not writing laws here)
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eddieroger 13y ago
Apple's forums are a private website that they are free to moderate in any way they want, and users agree to these conditions prior to contributing to the forum and any time they change. There are friendlier places on the Internet to post things Apple doesn't want you saying, but their user forums isn't that place.
- rmc 13y ago
  Just because something is owned by a private company doesn't mean they can do what they want and the law isn't allowed interfere. They cannot close it to Jews or black people, the law is quite clear. I'm suggesting making a law that says they cannot counter/restrict other people informating customers of their rights.
  - eddieroger 13y ago
    Well, I still disagree with you with respect to that law, because I think you're stretching consumer rights cover disliking a product. The point of Apple's forum isn't for warranty-covered tech support, so going in and bitching about a product is both nonconductive and distracting. If Lessig has a problem with his iPhone, there are channels he can go to for support, as well as other channels where he can voice his opinion. Besides, there are defamation laws in place already, and they're broad enough.

Things like this make me wish there was a law against companies attempting to counter or restict information on customers legal rights.

by rmc 13y ago

Things like this make me wish there was a law against companies attempting to counter or restict information on customers legal rights.

MichaelApproved 13y ago

We don't need laws against this. We already have existing and satisfactory avenues that expose these types of business practices. Good journalism and websites like Hacker News do a better job than a law regarding this type of practice ever could.

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logicallee 13y ago
I'm not saying you're wrong, but please don't be so casual with this audience's time. For example, should we have to do vigilante investigation of every company everywhere? Obviously consumer rights have to be balanced with the first amendment - and for this reason, I don't think your parent's proposal is clear enough to become a law. It's super-vague. But don't for a second be so generous in saying that we should take the burden on instead. I don't want to have to read about underage workers, credit card fraud by companies, carcinogenic additives, gross marketing misrepresentation, or any number of other practices that are simply illegal. Moreover even if someone did want to read about them here, we couldn't police the world's 125M companies. This is totally literally what laws are for.
- rmc 13y ago
  This original story was about information about the warranty in the EU. So I don't think the first amendment of the US constitution applies in this case. (And yes, it's a vague quick suggestion, this is a discussion board, we're not writing laws here)
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eddieroger 13y ago

Apple's forums are a private website that they are free to moderate in any way they want, and users agree to these conditions prior to contributing to the forum and any time they change. There are friendlier places on the Internet to post things Apple doesn't want you saying, but their user forums isn't that place.

rmc 13y ago
Just because something is owned by a private company doesn't mean they can do what they want and the law isn't allowed interfere. They cannot close it to Jews or black people, the law is quite clear. I'm suggesting making a law that says they cannot counter/restrict other people informating customers of their rights.
- eddieroger 13y ago
  Well, I still disagree with you with respect to that law, because I think you're stretching consumer rights cover disliking a product. The point of Apple's forum isn't for warranty-covered tech support, so going in and bitching about a product is both nonconductive and distracting. If Lessig has a problem with his iPhone, there are channels he can go to for support, as well as other channels where he can voice his opinion. Besides, there are defamation laws in place already, and they're broad enough.