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Do people similar to you in audience type really run the copy of Windows that comes with their laptops? Or, perhaps, does the ordinary folk/gamer care about bl

by solox3 13y ago

Do people similar to you in audience type really run the copy of Windows that comes with their laptops? Or, perhaps, does the ordinary folk/gamer care about bloatware on a laptop this fast, with i5/i7 and 16GB of RAM?

rsanheim 13y ago
People in my audience don't buy windows laptops :). If I have to run windows, its in a VM, and only for cross browser testing purposes.
rayiner 13y ago
My MacBook is littered with source code, and I run the copy of OS X that came on the machine. Futzing with OSes is for kids and a product that requires you to do so is a bad product.
- dman 13y ago
  There is exactly one vendor with an OS worth using which builds hardware worth using. The rest of us who are not so lucky to get an integrated offering have to futz around and make do with what we have.
busterarm 13y ago
Modern laptops occasionally have lots of add-on hardware that requires the OEM's software to work (3G modem, webcam, thumbreader, occasionally wifi, etc). That might be fine if you're buying a Dell. They're easy to get drivers from. (Though, who else has had to deal with those handful of Dells that required a custom Dell build of the Intel PROSet/Wireless software to work? -.-) But if you bought an ASUS? With the Impossible Website From Hell? HELL NO! Anyone who has had to download a driver or firmware update from their sites will tell you just how unpleasant the experience is (if they can even do it). I swear their webserver's connection to the outside world is a 14.4 modem. Running a non-ADK/OPK'd Windows install on a modern laptop reminds me a lot of running Linux on a laptop or OEM desktop 15-20 years ago. Hey, anyone remember how fun winmodems were? It's just not worth the risk. For me, laptops without Apple branding haven't been a sensible choice in a long time, and there was a good half-decade before that where the only serious manufacturer made ThinkPads.

by solox3 13y ago

rsanheim 13y ago

People in my audience don't buy windows laptops :). If I have to run windows, its in a VM, and only for cross browser testing purposes.

rayiner 13y ago

My MacBook is littered with source code, and I run the copy of OS X that came on the machine. Futzing with OSes is for kids and a product that requires you to do so is a bad product.

dman 13y ago
There is exactly one vendor with an OS worth using which builds hardware worth using. The rest of us who are not so lucky to get an integrated offering have to futz around and make do with what we have.

busterarm 13y ago

Modern laptops occasionally have lots of add-on hardware that requires the OEM's software to work (3G modem, webcam, thumbreader, occasionally wifi, etc). That might be fine if you're buying a Dell. They're easy to get drivers from. (Though, who else has had to deal with those handful of Dells that required a custom Dell build of the Intel PROSet/Wireless software to work? -.-) But if you bought an ASUS? With the Impossible Website From Hell? HELL NO! Anyone who has had to download a driver or firmware update from their sites will tell you just how unpleasant the experience is (if they can even do it). I swear their webserver's connection to the outside world is a 14.4 modem. Running a non-ADK/OPK'd Windows install on a modern laptop reminds me a lot of running Linux on a laptop or OEM desktop 15-20 years ago. Hey, anyone remember how fun winmodems were? It's just not worth the risk. For me, laptops without Apple branding haven't been a sensible choice in a long time, and there was a good half-decade before that where the only serious manufacturer made ThinkPads.