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I found Angular to be overly complex and couldn't imagine training a team to learn to use it in reasonable time. That's the scariest part of adopting Angular fo

by rcconf 13y ago

I found Angular to be overly complex and couldn't imagine training a team to learn to use it in reasonable time. That's the scariest part of adopting Angular for me. How would other coworkers adapt to the API and how long would it take for them to use it? The documentation was o.k at best, but I find that isn't the core issue. If you take a look at http://docs.angularjs.org/guide/concepts http://docs.angularjs.org/guide/concepts, it takes a very long time to completely understand what's happening under the covers. I'm definitely looking for alternatives.

d0m 13y ago
I disagree. I very like how the learning curve of angular follows my simple to complex application features. What I mean is that it's very easy to get started and hack you way through something that work, even if it's not 100% angular best practices. I.e. putting jquery code in your controller. As you become better and better, you start to have a better understanding of how angular works and your code improves similarly. I think this is an amazing quality for a framework. It reminds me how fun it was with jquery to get started even if the code was terrible, and then improve from it as you learn. For a newcomer to an angular project, they can simply read the html and have a pretty damn good idea of what's happening. You don't have to start writing directives and play with transclusion right away.
SkyMarshal 13y ago
Check out Facebook/Instagram's React: http://facebook.github.io/react/ http://facebook.github.io/react/ Simpler, and fast. I haven't messed with Angular enough to give an honest comparison, but I'm a fan of React's general design - it maintains its own model of the DOM, and user interactions change that model, then it diffs the new DOM back to the browser DOM. Fwiw this idea seems to slowly be catching on. There are at least two other frameworks that use a similar model - theGuardian.co.uk recently open-sourced their frontend JS framework Ractive, and the Lift web framework impllements a similar model on the server side (been around since 2007, just now the idea seems to be making its way to the frontend).
ihatehandles 13y ago
In my experience I've been teaching to friends over lunch. I think as an analogy it's like jQuery - it's easy to learn the basics and actually do useful start within a short time, but I you want to go for the deep end there is a really deep end.

by rcconf 13y ago

d0m 13y ago

I disagree. I very like how the learning curve of angular follows my simple to complex application features. What I mean is that it's very easy to get started and hack you way through something that work, even if it's not 100% angular best practices. I.e. putting jquery code in your controller. As you become better and better, you start to have a better understanding of how angular works and your code improves similarly. I think this is an amazing quality for a framework. It reminds me how fun it was with jquery to get started even if the code was terrible, and then improve from it as you learn. For a newcomer to an angular project, they can simply read the html and have a pretty damn good idea of what's happening. You don't have to start writing directives and play with transclusion right away.

SkyMarshal 13y ago

Check out Facebook/Instagram's React: http://facebook.github.io/react/ http://facebook.github.io/react/ Simpler, and fast. I haven't messed with Angular enough to give an honest comparison, but I'm a fan of React's general design - it maintains its own model of the DOM, and user interactions change that model, then it diffs the new DOM back to the browser DOM. Fwiw this idea seems to slowly be catching on. There are at least two other frameworks that use a similar model - theGuardian.co.uk recently open-sourced their frontend JS framework Ractive, and the Lift web framework impllements a similar model on the server side (been around since 2007, just now the idea seems to be making its way to the frontend).

ihatehandles 13y ago

In my experience I've been teaching to friends over lunch. I think as an analogy it's like jQuery - it's easy to learn the basics and actually do useful start within a short time, but I you want to go for the deep end there is a really deep end.