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Maybe I'm missing the point; or that this is implied, but this seems to really beg the question of, "Humans do all of these behaviors AND MANY MORE!" what sort

Maybe I'm missing the point; or that this is implied, but this seems to really beg the question of, "Humans do all of these behaviors AND MANY MORE!" what sort of "jerks" are we? In fact, it seems that the whole "jerk" thing is rather contrived, and the occurrences as a whole seem to merely suggest "this is what it is to be an animal."(They seemed to be going in this direction; but then turned it into a "this is why animals aren't actually good and nice and our superior reasoning ability allows us to avoid this" but I would respond with, "it hasn't.") I don't mean to legitimze, but rather to suggest that it puts any suggestions that humans are more than "just animals" (tm) in an interesting light.

aac 13y ago
You don't need to be sorry for your thoughts. "Maybe I'm missing the point", "I don't mean to...", and other similar phrases can be avoided. You don't need to use phrases such as these. Just say what you think, and if you find yourself unable to post without using those phrases, then that means your comment/argument is flawed and you shouldn't be posting such a comment.
- existencebox 13y ago
  I've found, especially in dealing with certain crowds which can often be known as adversarial to put it kindly, a lot of times you avoid conflict by coming across more defensively. Perhaps I've just had to deal with very abrasive people in my day to day work environment, but I phrase things in such a way consciously, aside from any judgement on the argument itself.
gurkendoktor 13y ago
IMHO, there is a huge difference between otters who don't know they're being jerks; the majority of humans who are not actively jerks; and terrible (anti-social) humans who understand through empathy that they're being jerks. I don't think mixing up the three groups helps. At I don't want to be punched in the face tomorrow with the excuse that amoeba do the same thing. :P

aac 13y ago

You don't need to be sorry for your thoughts. "Maybe I'm missing the point", "I don't mean to...", and other similar phrases can be avoided. You don't need to use phrases such as these. Just say what you think, and if you find yourself unable to post without using those phrases, then that means your comment/argument is flawed and you shouldn't be posting such a comment.

existencebox 13y ago
I've found, especially in dealing with certain crowds which can often be known as adversarial to put it kindly, a lot of times you avoid conflict by coming across more defensively. Perhaps I've just had to deal with very abrasive people in my day to day work environment, but I phrase things in such a way consciously, aside from any judgement on the argument itself.

gurkendoktor 13y ago

IMHO, there is a huge difference between otters who don't know they're being jerks; the majority of humans who are not actively jerks; and terrible (anti-social) humans who understand through empathy that they're being jerks. I don't think mixing up the three groups helps. At I don't want to be punched in the face tomorrow with the excuse that amoeba do the same thing. :P