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Can we somehow support adding it? How does it work on Wikipedia..

by scrrr 13y ago

jacques_chester 13y ago
It doesn't. There is a small cadre of Deletionists who go out of their way to kill off pages referring to programming languages. There was one bloke who single-handedly deleted dozens; I cannot now recall his name but it caused a helluva storm at the time. He was totally unrepentant.
- rurban 13y ago
  I also hate those Deletionists who have no clue about what they are talking about, use no real names, but still are allowed to make decisions like this. In open source you could fork it, but unfortunately this doesn't work like this in Wikipedia.
  - ErrantX 13y ago
    Please: fork Wikipedia content into a programming wiki. That would be awesome!
    - Jtsummers 13y ago
      Rosetta Code[1] could become such a wiki. If the main pages for languages were fleshed out (or add a new page per language) with language features. It certainly has a diverse enough selection of examples tasks to provide a neat comparison of each language. [1] http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code [2] http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Nimrod http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Nimrod
- tptacek 13y ago
  It caused a hell of a storm because someone decided to organize a witch hunt against the guy, resulting in an extremely embarrassing HN thread in which a bunch of HN people who should have known better decided to spend an evening insulting someone they didn't know. When you understand Wikipedia's charter, it's easy to understand why new programming languages are a tricky thing to write about: there are a lot of them, and most of them are not encyclopedia-notable. The arguments in favor of them all seem to involve relitigating the entire charter of Wikipedia to make room for new programming languages.
  - jacques_chester 13y ago
    The cause of the controversy is that there are multiple interpretations of the charter, only one of which is "well it's not in the NYT or my pet journal, delete it before it costs us millionths of a cent".
    - tptacek 13y ago
      I dispute that. I think the two interpretations that are conflicting are those of the project, and then those of outsiders to the project and a small group of enabling insiders who are themselves attacking the premise of their own project.

Can we somehow support adding it? How does it work on Wikipedia..

by scrrr 13y ago

Can we somehow support adding it? How does it work on Wikipedia..

It doesn't. There is a small cadre of Deletionists who go out of their way to kill off pages referring to programming languages. There was one bloke who single-handedly deleted dozens; I cannot now recall his name but it caused a helluva storm at the time. He was totally unrepentant.

rurban 13y ago
I also hate those Deletionists who have no clue about what they are talking about, use no real names, but still are allowed to make decisions like this. In open source you could fork it, but unfortunately this doesn't work like this in Wikipedia.
- ErrantX 13y ago
  Please: fork Wikipedia content into a programming wiki. That would be awesome!
  - Jtsummers 13y ago
    Rosetta Code[1] could become such a wiki. If the main pages for languages were fleshed out (or add a new page per language) with language features. It certainly has a diverse enough selection of examples tasks to provide a neat comparison of each language. [1] http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code [2] http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Nimrod http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Nimrod
tptacek 13y ago
It caused a hell of a storm because someone decided to organize a witch hunt against the guy, resulting in an extremely embarrassing HN thread in which a bunch of HN people who should have known better decided to spend an evening insulting someone they didn't know. When you understand Wikipedia's charter, it's easy to understand why new programming languages are a tricky thing to write about: there are a lot of them, and most of them are not encyclopedia-notable. The arguments in favor of them all seem to involve relitigating the entire charter of Wikipedia to make room for new programming languages.
- jacques_chester 13y ago
  The cause of the controversy is that there are multiple interpretations of the charter, only one of which is "well it's not in the NYT or my pet journal, delete it before it costs us millionths of a cent".
  - tptacek 13y ago
    I dispute that. I think the two interpretations that are conflicting are those of the project, and then those of outsiders to the project and a small group of enabling insiders who are themselves attacking the premise of their own project.