As a zsh user, I am not really seeing the problem. Even Solaris had zsh in the default install. I don't see why avoiding installing an rpm/deb is any better or

As a zsh user, I am not really seeing the problem. Even Solaris had zsh in the default install. I don't see why avoiding installing an rpm/deb is any better or worse than not. For regular shell scripts I tend to still prefer #!/bin/ksh and not bourne shell (no bash is not bourne shell). I have to admit the line of thinking you're advocating reminds me of the vim/emacs "wars". With the "vim is on ALL THE SERVERS", well yeah but unless i'm at a serial console thats not all that convincing as a TRAMP user. I customized tramp so I could edit files remotely through sudo. What do I care about the version vim installed on the servers?