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Why should OS vendors also supply cloud storage? Who would provide this cloud storage for Linux distributions?

hackinthebochs 13y ago
I think the point is that your computer connected to the internet is your cloud storage. There's no reason why that functionality needs to be farmed off to a third party.
- vectorjohn 13y ago
  A cloud requires at least 2 computers to be online at the same time. This is not the common case for people.
  - fit2rule 13y ago
    Only because the feature is not in the OS. Were it actually in the OS, people would leave their computers on in order to share things. It makes sense.
- icebraining 13y ago
  Besides vectorjohn's point, which is completely true, there's also a point about upstream speeds. Considering that most of us have asymmetric connections, sharing a big file with multiple people would be a pain if I had to upload it over and over again, while with a intermediary I can just upload it once and let it push to clients at greater speeds (and in parallel).
blumkvist 13y ago
skydrive, icloud, ubuntu one?
tzury 13y ago
In fact, they all do. Apple, Microsoft and Canonical all provides Cloud Storage and "syncing" tools. Be it iCloud, SkyDrive or UbuntuOne.
fit2rule 13y ago
Umm .. because accessing such resources as files in a shared way is a duty of the OS, after all. Or, to put it another way, lets rephrase your question: "Why should OS vendors supply drivers for filesystem _X_?" "Why should OS vendors provide a way for users to share files, at all?" The answer: because it is the duty of the OS to provide such features. Another thing: who says we need a Cloud model in order to deliver the same results as Dropbox? It could be just as easily possible to enable filesharing on a local workstation that is accessible to the public/chosen-users over the Internet, after all. The technology exists to implement these features entirely without relying on a Cloud at all: its called 'the computer in front of you'. The "cloud" aspect of the feature is not actually necessary to deliver this kind of filesharing functionality - this is only a marketing gimmick that is used to justify 3rd-party, commercial access to ones information. Remember, if you're not paying for it you're not a customer: you're a product. The features that Dropbox provide should already be in the OS. I create a Shared folder, I administer it with local OS features, I publish. I believe that OS vendors were asleep at the wheel during this Web 2.0 cult phase, but I hope they wake up soon and relieve us of the security and privacy nightmare that is Web 2.0.
- cdcarter 13y ago
  The thing that helped Dropbox take off (at least in my circles) was that it is on the cloud. I don't have to have a computer somewhere running all the time. In fact, I don't. Almost nobody I chat with regularly does.
  - fit2rule 13y ago
    Got a smartphone?

I think the point is that your computer connected to the internet is your cloud storage. There's no reason why that functionality needs to be farmed off to a third party.

vectorjohn 13y ago
A cloud requires at least 2 computers to be online at the same time. This is not the common case for people.
- fit2rule 13y ago
  Only because the feature is not in the OS. Were it actually in the OS, people would leave their computers on in order to share things. It makes sense.
icebraining 13y ago
Besides vectorjohn's point, which is completely true, there's also a point about upstream speeds. Considering that most of us have asymmetric connections, sharing a big file with multiple people would be a pain if I had to upload it over and over again, while with a intermediary I can just upload it once and let it push to clients at greater speeds (and in parallel).

blumkvist 13y ago

skydrive, icloud, ubuntu one?

tzury 13y ago

In fact, they all do. Apple, Microsoft and Canonical all provides Cloud Storage and "syncing" tools. Be it iCloud, SkyDrive or UbuntuOne.

fit2rule 13y ago

Umm .. because accessing such resources as files in a shared way is a duty of the OS, after all. Or, to put it another way, lets rephrase your question: "Why should OS vendors supply drivers for filesystem _X_?" "Why should OS vendors provide a way for users to share files, at all?" The answer: because it is the duty of the OS to provide such features. Another thing: who says we need a Cloud model in order to deliver the same results as Dropbox? It could be just as easily possible to enable filesharing on a local workstation that is accessible to the public/chosen-users over the Internet, after all. The technology exists to implement these features entirely without relying on a Cloud at all: its called 'the computer in front of you'. The "cloud" aspect of the feature is not actually necessary to deliver this kind of filesharing functionality - this is only a marketing gimmick that is used to justify 3rd-party, commercial access to ones information. Remember, if you're not paying for it you're not a customer: you're a product. The features that Dropbox provide should already be in the OS. I create a Shared folder, I administer it with local OS features, I publish. I believe that OS vendors were asleep at the wheel during this Web 2.0 cult phase, but I hope they wake up soon and relieve us of the security and privacy nightmare that is Web 2.0.

cdcarter 13y ago
The thing that helped Dropbox take off (at least in my circles) was that it is on the cloud. I don't have to have a computer somewhere running all the time. In fact, I don't. Almost nobody I chat with regularly does.
- fit2rule 13y ago
  Got a smartphone?