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Talk about moving the measurement to create concession. Ads are a problem. Never have there been more advertisements. Not only do people have Billboards, TV ads

Talk about moving the measurement to create concession. Ads are a problem. Never have there been more advertisements. Not only do people have Billboards, TV ads, Radio Ads, and Newspaper ads like we've had in the 20th century (all of which are still pervasive and virtually unavoidable), But we're not talking about a problem in avoiding all of the new types of advertising only really initiated in this century. Perhaps the problem isn't Ad Avoidance, but Ad Overload. People will either find a means to limit their exposure, or the Ad industry will see effectiveness drop to a level that isn't profitable to the cost. I understand that jingles and subconscious inserting one liners are impossible to ignore and extremely valuable, but I think the question rests on how many of these virtually empty platitudes a human mind can carry.

tel 13y ago
I've always found it interesting that prior to us paying for services with our private data, we paid for it with our attention. All of these implicit value transmissions are harmful to audiences, but the effects tend to be distant in time or space.
- tokenizer 13y ago
  > All of these implicit value transmissions are harmful to audiences, but the effects tend to be distant in time or space Well I see harmful effects now. The word "consumers" for one. Children being manipulated for profits. Over-sexualization. Creating the idea that things will make you happy, and make this one of the most popular concepts in society. Dividing people through the message of "Individuality", even though that only really means buying things your neighbor wants. > I've always found it interesting that prior to us paying for services with our private data, we paid for it with our attention. And now we pay with both our private data, and our attention, as both are extremely related when you want to either control, convince, or confuse someone.
  - tel 13y ago
    I agree that they're visible—I spoke too soon. I mean more psychologically that they have distance which means that we apply a lot of value discounting. Even if I know that funding all the things I enjoy via advertisement will eventually dehumanize me, I still get to enjoy them today. Disincentivizing local consumer gain is, if I were to wage a wide bet, something society will need to figure out. Our current values are clearly aiming at it.

tel 13y ago

I've always found it interesting that prior to us paying for services with our private data, we paid for it with our attention. All of these implicit value transmissions are harmful to audiences, but the effects tend to be distant in time or space.

tokenizer 13y ago
> All of these implicit value transmissions are harmful to audiences, but the effects tend to be distant in time or space Well I see harmful effects now. The word "consumers" for one. Children being manipulated for profits. Over-sexualization. Creating the idea that things will make you happy, and make this one of the most popular concepts in society. Dividing people through the message of "Individuality", even though that only really means buying things your neighbor wants. > I've always found it interesting that prior to us paying for services with our private data, we paid for it with our attention. And now we pay with both our private data, and our attention, as both are extremely related when you want to either control, convince, or confuse someone.
- tel 13y ago
  I agree that they're visible—I spoke too soon. I mean more psychologically that they have distance which means that we apply a lot of value discounting. Even if I know that funding all the things I enjoy via advertisement will eventually dehumanize me, I still get to enjoy them today. Disincentivizing local consumer gain is, if I were to wage a wide bet, something society will need to figure out. Our current values are clearly aiming at it.