A lot of the people going to an interview will be incompetent. With other people's projects as references. (Or so they say it is in many places, these days.) I

A lot of the people going to an interview will be incompetent. With other people's projects as references. (Or so they say it is in many places, these days.) If you insist on just working where they have evolved perfect routines to weed out the incompetents before interviewing, you'll miss out on most new places with smart people.