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For me the unfairness that matters is how much I'm being paid. If I'm making significantly less than others who produce the same amount and quality of output t

For me the unfairness that matters is how much I'm being paid. If I'm making significantly less than others who produce the same amount and quality of output that I do, or making less by people who produce less, then I raise it as a point with management. If nothing is changed when review time rolls around then it's on me to take action and look for another job. If I decide to stay somewhere that I'm unhappy, that's on me too. As an adult, I'm not going to stand around and whine about unfair conditions. If I perceive a problem, I create a change in my life.

HarryHirsch 13y ago
As an adult, I'm not going to stand around and whine about unfair conditions. If I perceive a problem, I create a change in my life. Last time I checked the recession was still ongoing, and the latest labour survey showed voluntary separations still to be uncommonly low. I'm aware that computing is quite shielded, but the Danish study isn't about you. It includes everyone else, too, and most are in a worse position.
w0rd-driven 13y ago
I have a problem with this too. People being paid more in most positions I've been aware of play what seems a confidence lottery. Its not that they're better skilled, they're just better negotiators. What should differentiate a group of developers with the same job title of say Agile Developer, where there is no junior-mid-senior? A set base pay with bonuses based on performance, or the wild west where 50 yr old Bob who is stuck in 80s programming practices makes more than 24 yr old Jack makes considerably less yet has to be corrected much less? It's disheartening as hell to realize the person who brings almost no value makes x-5k where x is your salary, with no bonus structure. Developer culture is stupid hard to convince to non developers. In our world, a meritocracy is highly favored. Based on talent not negotiating skills from talentless hacks.

HarryHirsch 13y ago

As an adult, I'm not going to stand around and whine about unfair conditions. If I perceive a problem, I create a change in my life. Last time I checked the recession was still ongoing, and the latest labour survey showed voluntary separations still to be uncommonly low. I'm aware that computing is quite shielded, but the Danish study isn't about you. It includes everyone else, too, and most are in a worse position.

w0rd-driven 13y ago

I have a problem with this too. People being paid more in most positions I've been aware of play what seems a confidence lottery. Its not that they're better skilled, they're just better negotiators. What should differentiate a group of developers with the same job title of say Agile Developer, where there is no junior-mid-senior? A set base pay with bonuses based on performance, or the wild west where 50 yr old Bob who is stuck in 80s programming practices makes more than 24 yr old Jack makes considerably less yet has to be corrected much less? It's disheartening as hell to realize the person who brings almost no value makes x-5k where x is your salary, with no bonus structure. Developer culture is stupid hard to convince to non developers. In our world, a meritocracy is highly favored. Based on talent not negotiating skills from talentless hacks.