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What every article like this and about any other EV fails to mention is how many Km can it do before needing to be charged, how much is needed to charge, etc. I

What every article like this and about any other EV fails to mention is how many Km can it do before needing to be charged, how much is needed to charge, etc. I'm sorry but that does not make me want to buy an EV not until I can get easily all the numbers to compare properly.

toomuchtodo 13y ago
Which EVs are you looking to have compared? I have the data locally for the Nissan Leaf, all the Tesla versions, and the Chevy Volt. If you'd like this data shown side-by-side, I'm more than happy to provide it. Also, if you want a vehicle included I did not list, more than happy to provide that as well.
- LoneWolf 13y ago
  I am speaking generally, everytime I try to compare them to gas or diesel cars I don't have data for the EVs, if you could provide the data for the ones you have I would appreciate.
  - toomuchtodo 13y ago
    You can use this US gov tool for side by side comparison between all vehicles (gas vs gas, gas vs electric), just specify year, make, model of each vehicle: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbsSelect http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbsSelect I'm away from my laptop at the moment, but will get the data together as soon as I'm back.
ris 13y ago
See this is why I still don't think pure EVs are the answer for the next few decades at least. Give people plug-in hybrids to assuage their range anxiety. Left to charge overnight at home a driver whose 90% of journeys are short will get the advantages of an EV and in those circumstances you go a bit further, it can be topped up with fuel instantly like a regular car - no "long charging" worries. As battery technology slowly improves, the IC engine can become a less and less significant component until it's really just there for emergencies. Is this not the answer?
- marvin 13y ago
  A pure EV will be better in every respect. Unless you replace the gasoline motor with a generator, having a gasoline engine still necessitates a lot of mechanical parts you can just drop if you have a pure EV. Transmission, exhaust, clutch, gas tank and a lot more. This increases both mechanical complexity (repairs) and cost. Once battery tech gets sufficiently cheap, EVs will blow all the competition out of the water for personal vehicles. At most you'll get EVs with a gasoline-fueled genset for refueling off the grid. But it's more likely you'll just switch to a bigger battery pack for the duration of the few short trips which are incompatible with length and charging infrastructure.
  - ris 13y ago
    > A pure EV will be better in every respect... All that you say is true, but will the charging time cripple them for longer distances for the next 20 years at least?
    - marvin 13y ago
      I am certain that this will not be a problem. Given the average distance driven in one day, most people can charge overnight with good margin on a 220V outlet. Tesla's supercharging stations currently charge at 135kW DC, and this appears to be upgradable in the future.

toomuchtodo 13y ago

Which EVs are you looking to have compared? I have the data locally for the Nissan Leaf, all the Tesla versions, and the Chevy Volt. If you'd like this data shown side-by-side, I'm more than happy to provide it. Also, if you want a vehicle included I did not list, more than happy to provide that as well.

LoneWolf 13y ago
I am speaking generally, everytime I try to compare them to gas or diesel cars I don't have data for the EVs, if you could provide the data for the ones you have I would appreciate.
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  You can use this US gov tool for side by side comparison between all vehicles (gas vs gas, gas vs electric), just specify year, make, model of each vehicle: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbsSelect http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbsSelect I'm away from my laptop at the moment, but will get the data together as soon as I'm back.

ris 13y ago

See this is why I still don't think pure EVs are the answer for the next few decades at least. Give people plug-in hybrids to assuage their range anxiety. Left to charge overnight at home a driver whose 90% of journeys are short will get the advantages of an EV and in those circumstances you go a bit further, it can be topped up with fuel instantly like a regular car - no "long charging" worries. As battery technology slowly improves, the IC engine can become a less and less significant component until it's really just there for emergencies. Is this not the answer?

marvin 13y ago
A pure EV will be better in every respect. Unless you replace the gasoline motor with a generator, having a gasoline engine still necessitates a lot of mechanical parts you can just drop if you have a pure EV. Transmission, exhaust, clutch, gas tank and a lot more. This increases both mechanical complexity (repairs) and cost. Once battery tech gets sufficiently cheap, EVs will blow all the competition out of the water for personal vehicles. At most you'll get EVs with a gasoline-fueled genset for refueling off the grid. But it's more likely you'll just switch to a bigger battery pack for the duration of the few short trips which are incompatible with length and charging infrastructure.
- ris 13y ago
  > A pure EV will be better in every respect... All that you say is true, but will the charging time cripple them for longer distances for the next 20 years at least?
  - marvin 13y ago
    I am certain that this will not be a problem. Given the average distance driven in one day, most people can charge overnight with good margin on a 220V outlet. Tesla's supercharging stations currently charge at 135kW DC, and this appears to be upgradable in the future.