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iPhone 3.0 Released

68 points by markbao 17y ago

msluyter 17y ago
Ars Technica has their usual thorough review here: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/06/hands-on-review-iphone-os-30-chock-full-of-changes.ars http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/06/hands-on-review...
trezor 17y ago
I think I agree with the conclusion: If you already have an iPhone 3G, this update is more than good enough reason not to even consider a iPhone 3G S.
- henriklied 17y ago
  I agree, although I'd love to have the updated camera. Andy Ihnatko got to review it early, and he posted some pictures from it to Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyi/sets/72157619833958006/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyi/sets/72157619833958006/
  - rufo 17y ago
    His actual review is quite positive on the 3G S: http://www.suntimes.com/business/1626818,ihnatko-iphone-3-review-061709.article http://www.suntimes.com/business/1626818,ihnatko-iphone-3-re... I tend to feel like I'm waiting for my iPhone slightly more often, and I'm already bumping my head against 16GB of storage, so I'm sorely tempted - especially now that AT&T has relaxed slightly on the iPhone contract timing.
    - aditya 17y ago
      How have they relaxed on iPhone contract timing? An upgrade to a 32GB iPhone is $399, if you qualify for early upgrade and $699 if you don't!
      - rufo 17y ago
        http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/17/atandt-relents-a-little-lets-iphone-3g-customers-with-upcoming-up/ http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/17/atandt-relents-a-little-l... (I probably should have said "upgrade timing" and not "contract timing". Either way, my full-subsidy upgrade date is July 12th, so I could pick one up for $299 on Friday.)
      - spicyj 17y ago
        Well, AT&T posted a page today about the pricing specifics, for those who were confused. No one can really figure out if it's any different from before: http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=1574 http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=1574
      - deleted 17y ago
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      - gojomo 17y ago
        It appears there's a half-subsidy upgrade price of $499 between the $299 full-subsidy and $699 no-commitment price. Eligibility seems to be 1 year after your last subsidy. If you spend a lot monthly, you might be eligible for a full subsidy at 12- or 18- months rather than the full two years' time. And, it might even be possible to pay a smaller cancellation fee (perhaps $125-$175), then return as a full-subsidy new customer. One rep I spoke to a while ago seemed to see no problems with that approach. Finally, an old phone may fetch $200-$300 without a contract. So the net costs aren't as scary as $699 with a little extra effort.
- tvon 17y ago
  I have the 3G and I'm considering the 3G S for the improved camera, the video and as a bonus, the improved performance. I also only have an 8 gig 3G, and I'm starting to want more room.
andr 17y ago
Is anyone else's update failing with "The iPhone activation server is temporarily unavailable."?
- KClough 17y ago
  Yes. I am too.
  - KClough 17y ago
    Fourth time rebooting, finally got activated.
    - Luc 17y ago
      No need for rebooting, just keep trying.
- codyrobbins 17y ago
  Yes, everyone's is: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=iphone+activation+server http://search.twitter.com/search?q=iphone+activation+server.
  - neilc 17y ago
    If you start the update, and then while it is extracting, disconnect your Internet connection, the update process doesn't try to contact the activation server. http://twitter.com/JeremyCurry/statuses/2211487905 http://twitter.com/JeremyCurry/statuses/2211487905
    - mikeryan 17y ago
      (I'm confirming that this works)
Oompa 17y ago
Now, all I need is PwnageTool/QuickPwn.
rufo 17y ago
The iPhone 3.0 SDK is public now as well. I'm downloading it now.
st3fan 17y ago
Finally!
weegee 17y ago
smart to wait for a couple of days to weed out any bugs, it's what I plan to do.
augustus 17y ago
The iPhone 3.0 SDK GM seed has been available for a while now.
dhess 17y ago
I'm an iPhone 3G customer in the States (AT&T), but I'm in Japan at the moment, roaming on either Softbank or NTT Docomo, depending on the particulars of my location. It's not clear to me exactly what the activation process does after an upgrade; does it need access to the home carrier's mobile network, or does everything happen over the Internet? Anyone know whether upgrading to 3.0 from a foreign country brick the phone until I get back to the U.S.?
- gustaf 17y ago
  I'm in same situation. Did you figure it out?
  - dhess 17y ago
    No, not yet. Earlier today Apple's activation servers were down, and people got around it by disconnecting from the Internet while updating the firmware; apparently this bypasses the Internet part of the activation at least, c.f., http://twitter.com/JeremyCurry/statuses/2211487905 http://twitter.com/JeremyCurry/statuses/2211487905 (This workaround was verified by multiple people on Twitter and on HN, see other posts in this thread.) So it sounds like there is a portion of the activation that happens over the Internet, but I don't know whether there's also a carrier wireless network activation.
    - dhess 17y ago
      I just upgraded to 3.0 from my hotel room in Osaka and it worked fine. I put the phone into airplane mode before upgrading, but after the firmware update finished, it was out of airplane mode and communicating with the Softbank mobile network again, so I don't think it made any difference.

68 points by markbao 17y ago

Ars Technica has their usual thorough review here: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/06/hands-on-review-iphone-os-30-chock-full-of-changes.ars http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/06/hands-on-review...

trezor 17y ago

I think I agree with the conclusion: If you already have an iPhone 3G, this update is more than good enough reason not to even consider a iPhone 3G S.

henriklied 17y ago
I agree, although I'd love to have the updated camera. Andy Ihnatko got to review it early, and he posted some pictures from it to Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyi/sets/72157619833958006/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyi/sets/72157619833958006/
- rufo 17y ago
  His actual review is quite positive on the 3G S: http://www.suntimes.com/business/1626818,ihnatko-iphone-3-review-061709.article http://www.suntimes.com/business/1626818,ihnatko-iphone-3-re... I tend to feel like I'm waiting for my iPhone slightly more often, and I'm already bumping my head against 16GB of storage, so I'm sorely tempted - especially now that AT&T has relaxed slightly on the iPhone contract timing.
  - aditya 17y ago
    How have they relaxed on iPhone contract timing? An upgrade to a 32GB iPhone is $399, if you qualify for early upgrade and $699 if you don't!
    - rufo 17y ago
      http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/17/atandt-relents-a-little-lets-iphone-3g-customers-with-upcoming-up/ http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/17/atandt-relents-a-little-l... (I probably should have said "upgrade timing" and not "contract timing". Either way, my full-subsidy upgrade date is July 12th, so I could pick one up for $299 on Friday.)
    - spicyj 17y ago
      Well, AT&T posted a page today about the pricing specifics, for those who were confused. No one can really figure out if it's any different from before: http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=1574 http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=1574
    - deleted 17y ago
      [deleted]
    - gojomo 17y ago
      It appears there's a half-subsidy upgrade price of $499 between the $299 full-subsidy and $699 no-commitment price. Eligibility seems to be 1 year after your last subsidy. If you spend a lot monthly, you might be eligible for a full subsidy at 12- or 18- months rather than the full two years' time. And, it might even be possible to pay a smaller cancellation fee (perhaps $125-$175), then return as a full-subsidy new customer. One rep I spoke to a while ago seemed to see no problems with that approach. Finally, an old phone may fetch $200-$300 without a contract. So the net costs aren't as scary as $699 with a little extra effort.
tvon 17y ago
I have the 3G and I'm considering the 3G S for the improved camera, the video and as a bonus, the improved performance. I also only have an 8 gig 3G, and I'm starting to want more room.

andr 17y ago

Is anyone else's update failing with "The iPhone activation server is temporarily unavailable."?

KClough 17y ago
Yes. I am too.
- KClough 17y ago
  Fourth time rebooting, finally got activated.
  - Luc 17y ago
    No need for rebooting, just keep trying.
codyrobbins 17y ago
Yes, everyone's is: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=iphone+activation+server http://search.twitter.com/search?q=iphone+activation+server.
- neilc 17y ago
  If you start the update, and then while it is extracting, disconnect your Internet connection, the update process doesn't try to contact the activation server. http://twitter.com/JeremyCurry/statuses/2211487905 http://twitter.com/JeremyCurry/statuses/2211487905
  - mikeryan 17y ago
    (I'm confirming that this works)

Oompa 17y ago

Now, all I need is PwnageTool/QuickPwn.

rufo 17y ago

The iPhone 3.0 SDK is public now as well. I'm downloading it now.

st3fan 17y ago

Finally!

weegee 17y ago

smart to wait for a couple of days to weed out any bugs, it's what I plan to do.

augustus 17y ago

The iPhone 3.0 SDK GM seed has been available for a while now.

dhess 17y ago

I'm an iPhone 3G customer in the States (AT&T), but I'm in Japan at the moment, roaming on either Softbank or NTT Docomo, depending on the particulars of my location. It's not clear to me exactly what the activation process does after an upgrade; does it need access to the home carrier's mobile network, or does everything happen over the Internet? Anyone know whether upgrading to 3.0 from a foreign country brick the phone until I get back to the U.S.?

gustaf 17y ago
I'm in same situation. Did you figure it out?
- dhess 17y ago
  No, not yet. Earlier today Apple's activation servers were down, and people got around it by disconnecting from the Internet while updating the firmware; apparently this bypasses the Internet part of the activation at least, c.f., http://twitter.com/JeremyCurry/statuses/2211487905 http://twitter.com/JeremyCurry/statuses/2211487905 (This workaround was verified by multiple people on Twitter and on HN, see other posts in this thread.) So it sounds like there is a portion of the activation that happens over the Internet, but I don't know whether there's also a carrier wireless network activation.
  - dhess 17y ago
    I just upgraded to 3.0 from my hotel room in Osaka and it worked fine. I put the phone into airplane mode before upgrading, but after the firmware update finished, it was out of airplane mode and communicating with the Softbank mobile network again, so I don't think it made any difference.