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Mozilla Firefox 3.5RC1 is out

52 points by vaksel 17y ago

mrduncan 17y ago
It appears that all of the download links are still pointing to beta 4. Here is the link to RC 1: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.5rc1&os=win&lang=en-US http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=...
- Nogwater 17y ago
  I just downloaded b4 and ran an update. Whatever works, I guess.
  - mrduncan 17y ago
    Oh, I wasn't aware that the betas would upgrade into the RCs - good to hear. Downloading the RC directly will save an update step though.
TweedHeads 17y ago
The web keeps moving forward Unstoppable
rufo 17y ago
Do they summarize anywhere what's improved between this and b4? The "What's New" section just lists the major new features of 3.5.
- Jem 17y ago
  Is https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Firefox_3.5_for_developers https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Firefox_3.5_for_developers what you had in mind?
  - rufo 17y ago
    Not exactly - I was looking for what they've specifically fixed between 3.5b4 and RC1. I suppose I could pull a Bugzilla report, but I was hoping for just a summary. Thanks for the link, though - it's a good read.
- sp332 17y ago
  One thing I've noticed, is that they're using the refreshed Firefox icon. Large version can be found at http://people.mozilla.com/~faaborg/files/20090602-firefoxIconIterations11to14/shiretokoFirefoxIcon-i14.png_large.png http://people.mozilla.com/~faaborg/files/20090602-firefoxIco... , and discussion about the new icon here: http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/06/new-firefox-icon-iteration-14-in-context/ http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/06/new-firefox-icon-...
abstractbill 17y ago
Does firebug work with it yet? I'd love to start using 3.5, but can't afford to lose that.
- arebop 17y ago
  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/1843#version-1.4.0b2 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/184...
- dmix 17y ago
  Just apply these fixes and all plugins work with 3.5 beta: http://lifehacker.com/355973/make-your-extensions-work-with-the-firefox-3-betasig2=aNErHcPbGASpWfnhbxNAeg http://lifehacker.com/355973/make-your-extensions-work-with-...
- cakeface 17y ago
  I've been using Firebug 1.4.0b2 with Firefox 3.5b and it works well. I use the Firefox nightly builds so I've turned off plugin compatibility checking.
- RossM 17y ago
  Became compatible with b99 yesterday, so if it's incompatible again it should be fixed fairly quickly.
thorax 17y ago
There was a 3.5b99 being pushed as an RC candidate, anyone know how this "b4" build fits into that progression?
- Janzert 17y ago
  beta 4 was the previous release. It seems that the download links have not been updated yet.
- RossM 17y ago
  I think b99 was a QA version, for a last call for bugs before the RC.
indraneel24 17y ago
At least on OS X, this is faster than Firefox has ever been for me in the last 2-3 months. Switched back to Firefox over Safari.
- kentosi 17y ago
  What about native-style widgets? Are they finally fixed? That's been my gripe with firefox since day 1, and the only thing still holding me back to Sarafi. Although buttons look native-ish, dropdowns (from the <select> element) still look hideous. Check out the following bugs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402625 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402625 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430745 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430745
- wfarr 17y ago
  Why? In my experience, Safari 4 has been noticeably faster than FF3.5 RC1. I could understand wanting the extensions and such, but if speed made that much of a difference in your decision, I just can't fathom how Firefox on OS X could be preferred.
thorax 17y ago
I noticed the Firefox icon changed a little bit in terms of its coloring, etc. Threw me off a bit.
- patrickas 17y ago
  You are right! Mozilla is reworking some details of the icon for 3.5 release. Here is a <a href="http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/creative-brief-for-the-new-firefox-icon/>post</a&#62 http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/creative-brief-fo...; with all the details . You can also see in the archives the evolution of the new icon refinements.
  - patrickas 17y ago
    I'm an idiot :-) Here are the correct links http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/18/the-new-firefox-icon/ http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/18/the-new-firefox-i... http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/creative-brief-for-the-new-firefox-icon/ http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/creative-brief-fo...
dilap 17y ago
Are there any plans to refresh the appearance to better fit with Vista? It looks quite ugly, especially compared to Chrome (which does an excellent job of integrating well with the look of Vista -- quite surprising, coming from Google). Tweaking the icon is nice and all, but what's the point if the browser itself looks bad?
martythemaniak 17y ago
I'm really excited to see Firefox 3.5 come out soon. I know Chrome 2 and Safari 4 have been out already, but with FF3.5 a really large slice of internet users are going to have a really fast, kickass modern browser. I was testing my software (which is really heavy on the javascript - makes extensive use of Ext-js) with RC1 earlier today and it just flew. Feels damn near like a desktop app.
sketerpot 17y ago
Okay, this is weird. When I hit the left shift key in this latest Firefox, my keyboard switches into Chinese mode. Check it out: 大山 <-- awesome! Actually, this is kind of inconvenient. I hit the shift key by accident more often than I'd realized.

52 points by vaksel 17y ago

It appears that all of the download links are still pointing to beta 4. Here is the link to RC 1: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.5rc1&os=win&lang=en-US http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=...

Nogwater 17y ago
I just downloaded b4 and ran an update. Whatever works, I guess.
- mrduncan 17y ago
  Oh, I wasn't aware that the betas would upgrade into the RCs - good to hear. Downloading the RC directly will save an update step though.

TweedHeads 17y ago

The web keeps moving forward Unstoppable

rufo 17y ago

Do they summarize anywhere what's improved between this and b4? The "What's New" section just lists the major new features of 3.5.

Jem 17y ago
Is https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Firefox_3.5_for_developers https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Firefox_3.5_for_developers what you had in mind?
- rufo 17y ago
  Not exactly - I was looking for what they've specifically fixed between 3.5b4 and RC1. I suppose I could pull a Bugzilla report, but I was hoping for just a summary. Thanks for the link, though - it's a good read.
sp332 17y ago
One thing I've noticed, is that they're using the refreshed Firefox icon. Large version can be found at http://people.mozilla.com/~faaborg/files/20090602-firefoxIconIterations11to14/shiretokoFirefoxIcon-i14.png_large.png http://people.mozilla.com/~faaborg/files/20090602-firefoxIco... , and discussion about the new icon here: http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/06/new-firefox-icon-iteration-14-in-context/ http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/06/new-firefox-icon-...

abstractbill 17y ago

Does firebug work with it yet? I'd love to start using 3.5, but can't afford to lose that.

arebop 17y ago
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/1843#version-1.4.0b2 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/184...
dmix 17y ago
Just apply these fixes and all plugins work with 3.5 beta: http://lifehacker.com/355973/make-your-extensions-work-with-the-firefox-3-betasig2=aNErHcPbGASpWfnhbxNAeg http://lifehacker.com/355973/make-your-extensions-work-with-...
cakeface 17y ago
I've been using Firebug 1.4.0b2 with Firefox 3.5b and it works well. I use the Firefox nightly builds so I've turned off plugin compatibility checking.
RossM 17y ago
Became compatible with b99 yesterday, so if it's incompatible again it should be fixed fairly quickly.

thorax 17y ago

There was a 3.5b99 being pushed as an RC candidate, anyone know how this "b4" build fits into that progression?

Janzert 17y ago
beta 4 was the previous release. It seems that the download links have not been updated yet.
RossM 17y ago
I think b99 was a QA version, for a last call for bugs before the RC.

indraneel24 17y ago

At least on OS X, this is faster than Firefox has ever been for me in the last 2-3 months. Switched back to Firefox over Safari.

kentosi 17y ago
What about native-style widgets? Are they finally fixed? That's been my gripe with firefox since day 1, and the only thing still holding me back to Sarafi. Although buttons look native-ish, dropdowns (from the <select> element) still look hideous. Check out the following bugs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402625 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402625 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430745 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430745
wfarr 17y ago
Why? In my experience, Safari 4 has been noticeably faster than FF3.5 RC1. I could understand wanting the extensions and such, but if speed made that much of a difference in your decision, I just can't fathom how Firefox on OS X could be preferred.

thorax 17y ago

I noticed the Firefox icon changed a little bit in terms of its coloring, etc. Threw me off a bit.

patrickas 17y ago
You are right! Mozilla is reworking some details of the icon for 3.5 release. Here is a <a href="http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/creative-brief-for-the-new-firefox-icon/>post</a&#62 http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/creative-brief-fo...; with all the details . You can also see in the archives the evolution of the new icon refinements.
- patrickas 17y ago
  I'm an idiot :-) Here are the correct links http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/18/the-new-firefox-icon/ http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/18/the-new-firefox-i... http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/creative-brief-for-the-new-firefox-icon/ http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/creative-brief-fo...

dilap 17y ago

Are there any plans to refresh the appearance to better fit with Vista? It looks quite ugly, especially compared to Chrome (which does an excellent job of integrating well with the look of Vista -- quite surprising, coming from Google). Tweaking the icon is nice and all, but what's the point if the browser itself looks bad?

martythemaniak 17y ago

I'm really excited to see Firefox 3.5 come out soon. I know Chrome 2 and Safari 4 have been out already, but with FF3.5 a really large slice of internet users are going to have a really fast, kickass modern browser. I was testing my software (which is really heavy on the javascript - makes extensive use of Ext-js) with RC1 earlier today and it just flew. Feels damn near like a desktop app.

sketerpot 17y ago

Okay, this is weird. When I hit the left shift key in this latest Firefox, my keyboard switches into Chinese mode. Check it out: 大山 <-- awesome! Actually, this is kind of inconvenient. I hit the shift key by accident more often than I'd realized.