in which case the answer to your: > In todays development world i dont see any reason why to use python/ruby instead of php ... would probably just be that fo

in which case the answer to your: > In todays development world i dont see any reason why to use python/ruby instead of php ... would probably just be that for anyone with a taste of Python and Ruby, PHP the language and dev-environment is a bitter pill to swallow, no matter how good the frameworks are now. Laravel looks pretty ace to me if I must do PHP, but I'd much rather use Python or Ruby.