Err, yes, but I don't think anything you've said actually disproves his argument... Black powder guns - I assuming you're referring to the muzzle-loaded antiqu

Err, yes, but I don't think anything you've said actually disproves his argument... Black powder guns - I assuming you're referring to the muzzle-loaded antique-looking ones you'd normally see in museums? Not exactly the sort of thing you'd use for sport shooting, or for self-defense. And saying that there are illegal sales doesn't mean that the "UK hasn't banned all handgun sales to civilians". That's like saying smoking in a hospital is illegal - but I heard from a friend of a friend that this guy in the next county did it once and didn't get caught - so they haven't really banned smoking, have they gasp? Look, I have my own thoughts on guy laws, and I'm not saying the UK handgun ban is bad - but to claim is isn't really a ban (with tiny exceptions) is a bit disingenuous.