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I love the Stockholmed defenders posting here. Next up, Pages 6 - a piece of paper and a pencil! "The editing is very intuitive. You just rub the other end o

I love the Stockholmed defenders posting here. Next up, Pages 6 - a piece of paper and a pencil! "The editing is very intuitive. You just rub the other end of the pencil on the paper - very nice. The motion feels like a tablet." "There are way more pages of paper the Apple devices, Apple is just skating to the puck here." "Most people want simpler word processing. Apple has listened to its users - this is so easy a child could do it." "I prefer Apple's minimalism to a complicated and expensive device. Paper and pencil just works." "It's quite a bit less expensive, but my friends can see the Apple logo watermark right there in the center so it still fits my trendy Bay Area lifestyle."

gurkendoktor 13y ago
You forgot the most important one: "Apple removing features is what allows it to push forward so much faster than Microsoft" In the same way that Mail.app has made CRAZY progress since RSS has been kicked out to everyone's applause... sigh
- eitally 13y ago
  Except that's actually pretty accurate. One of the reasons MS is so slow is because their apps & platforms are so heavy with reverse compatibility.
  - potatolicious 13y ago
    I think the point is that removing functionality doesn't mean you're going to move faster. Mail.app removed functionality but has received no major new features for years, and is still overall kind of a crappy phone-it-in email app. Almost anything is better than Mail.app today.
  - gurkendoktor 13y ago
    I know it sounds plausible, especially considering the ugly hacks that are revealed on The Old New Thing. But I don't think there's ever been any proof, or even good examples of it. Management, friction between departments and time wasted on visual overhauls could easily be bigger factors than a few thousand (or millions) lines of ugly code maintained for backwards compatibility. Empirically, the iCloud reboot is still meh. iMovie (cleanly rewritten one version ago) is averaging at 3 stars on the Mac App Store, with especially devastating reviews in the German MAS. On the other hand, iOS 7 is moving very fast while being one of the products where Apple cares a lot about backwards compatibility.
pjmlp 13y ago
They are Apple users, what else would you expect?!
- sanderjd 13y ago
  Your parent cleverly made an insightful point that is cutting without offensively stereotyping, and you respond with a piece of jerky snark that is not clever, insightful, or cutting, and which is offensive. In fact, your comment plays almost as well as satire of mindless anti-Apple crusaders as the parent's does as satire of the opposite. If that's how you meant it, then bravo, otherwise, lame.
  - pjmlp 13y ago
    The Internet history is full of forum entries justifying the actions from Cupertino, regardless whatever they make sense or not. As for being an anti-Apple crusader, I spent part of my day coding on Mac Book Air. As the village women used to say "Those that get offended recognised themselves".
    - glhaynes 13y ago
      It's still a bad comment.

gurkendoktor 13y ago

You forgot the most important one: "Apple removing features is what allows it to push forward so much faster than Microsoft" In the same way that Mail.app has made CRAZY progress since RSS has been kicked out to everyone's applause... sigh

eitally 13y ago
Except that's actually pretty accurate. One of the reasons MS is so slow is because their apps & platforms are so heavy with reverse compatibility.
- potatolicious 13y ago
  I think the point is that removing functionality doesn't mean you're going to move faster. Mail.app removed functionality but has received no major new features for years, and is still overall kind of a crappy phone-it-in email app. Almost anything is better than Mail.app today.
- gurkendoktor 13y ago
  I know it sounds plausible, especially considering the ugly hacks that are revealed on The Old New Thing. But I don't think there's ever been any proof, or even good examples of it. Management, friction between departments and time wasted on visual overhauls could easily be bigger factors than a few thousand (or millions) lines of ugly code maintained for backwards compatibility. Empirically, the iCloud reboot is still meh. iMovie (cleanly rewritten one version ago) is averaging at 3 stars on the Mac App Store, with especially devastating reviews in the German MAS. On the other hand, iOS 7 is moving very fast while being one of the products where Apple cares a lot about backwards compatibility.

pjmlp 13y ago

They are Apple users, what else would you expect?!

sanderjd 13y ago
Your parent cleverly made an insightful point that is cutting without offensively stereotyping, and you respond with a piece of jerky snark that is not clever, insightful, or cutting, and which is offensive. In fact, your comment plays almost as well as satire of mindless anti-Apple crusaders as the parent's does as satire of the opposite. If that's how you meant it, then bravo, otherwise, lame.
- pjmlp 13y ago
  The Internet history is full of forum entries justifying the actions from Cupertino, regardless whatever they make sense or not. As for being an anti-Apple crusader, I spent part of my day coding on Mac Book Air. As the village women used to say "Those that get offended recognised themselves".
  - glhaynes 13y ago
    It's still a bad comment.