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What a non-issue. If "you're a huge Gmail user on the Mac" then just use the web interface. The only place where the web interface isn't the prime way to intera

by hnriot 13y ago

What a non-issue. If "you're a huge Gmail user on the Mac" then just use the web interface. The only place where the web interface isn't the prime way to interact with gmail is on the phone and google have an app for that. If you really must use a thick client to use gmail, Thunderbird installs and runs just fine on the mac.

bigdubs 13y ago
Or Postbox, which also still works just fine under Mavericks.
3JPLW 13y ago
Replace "huge Gmail user" with "huge email user that happens to use Gmail servers as the host" and you can begin to see the trouble. It shouldn't matter which IMAP client you use. If there's trouble in communication between Mail.app and Gmail's IMAP servers, then one of the two parties messed up. If there's a regression in Apple's Mail.app, it is a big deal if you have an established workflow with any piece of software. Likewise if Google is making it harder to use your IMAP client of choice, it's a big deal. Users have established patterns and they're hard to break. Hell, just re-syncing my whole email archive into another client would take days (Google throttles batch downloads aggressively, and I don't always have internet connectivity when I need access to my email archive). Nevermind learning a new user interface. When software regresses, users will complain.
- hnriot 13y ago
  I still don't see the trouble. I use imap for work email, because our corporate web mail looks like yahoo circa 2004, but gmail I use chrome, a far better user experience.
  - rosser 13y ago
    At $work, we use Google Apps. What happens to people in my situation, who were using Mail.app instead of the web interface?
    - hnriot 13y ago
      you use the web app, as previously mentioned
  - meric 13y ago
    With Gmail, you're limited to seeing mail from one account at a time. With Mail, it coalesces email from all my accounts into one list.
    - hnriot 13y ago
      not at all. gmail can pull from many imap or pop sources.
- gibwell 13y ago
  Google has never had a standard IMAP implementation for Gmail.
aroman 13y ago
What about in-app mailing support? And notifications? Gmail's web UI seems like a suboptimal way of doing email on a desktop OS.
dylanz 13y ago
Some people like encryption.

by hnriot 13y ago

bigdubs 13y ago

Or Postbox, which also still works just fine under Mavericks.

3JPLW 13y ago

Replace "huge Gmail user" with "huge email user that happens to use Gmail servers as the host" and you can begin to see the trouble. It shouldn't matter which IMAP client you use. If there's trouble in communication between Mail.app and Gmail's IMAP servers, then one of the two parties messed up. If there's a regression in Apple's Mail.app, it is a big deal if you have an established workflow with any piece of software. Likewise if Google is making it harder to use your IMAP client of choice, it's a big deal. Users have established patterns and they're hard to break. Hell, just re-syncing my whole email archive into another client would take days (Google throttles batch downloads aggressively, and I don't always have internet connectivity when I need access to my email archive). Nevermind learning a new user interface. When software regresses, users will complain.

hnriot 13y ago
I still don't see the trouble. I use imap for work email, because our corporate web mail looks like yahoo circa 2004, but gmail I use chrome, a far better user experience.
- rosser 13y ago
  At $work, we use Google Apps. What happens to people in my situation, who were using Mail.app instead of the web interface?
  - hnriot 13y ago
    you use the web app, as previously mentioned
- meric 13y ago
  With Gmail, you're limited to seeing mail from one account at a time. With Mail, it coalesces email from all my accounts into one list.
  - hnriot 13y ago
    not at all. gmail can pull from many imap or pop sources.
gibwell 13y ago
Google has never had a standard IMAP implementation for Gmail.

aroman 13y ago

What about in-app mailing support? And notifications? Gmail's web UI seems like a suboptimal way of doing email on a desktop OS.

dylanz 13y ago

Some people like encryption.