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Ask HN: Review our app ReSubj.com

6 points by snitko 17y ago

http://resubj.com

Adlai 17y ago
I like the idea. I just made a quick test (visible here: http://www.resubj.com/inboxes/1152 http://www.resubj.com/inboxes/1152) to look at the code formatting. The formatting looks great for Ruby, but not-so-much for Lisp. Not a huge issue, but maybe when somebody clicks the programmer? link, it'll show a list of supported languages. The email that I got was in plain text. Maybe there could be an option when creating the message to send the emails with formatting? That way, if you know that your friends can see formatted emails, you can send properly colored code. Comment posting is very quick. When I sent in a comment through email, it took about half a minute for the comment to show up -- but I guess that's to be expected. So, my general verdict: I like the idea. However, I think that for it to appeal to non-hackers, it should support formatting. It could even be something simple, like the italics supported by HN.
- snitko 17y ago
  Thank you for your reply. Emailing comments is probably that slow because we haven't optimized the emails queue (that's coming). Sending emails in HTML is a big question to me. I believe that people who would prefer HTML emails to plaintext ones would also prefer web-interface to email-client when posting new comments. What do you think?
  - Adlai 17y ago
    I'm not sure about that question. Another improvement you could make to the code display is to display the language in which the code is written.
    - snitko 17y ago
      Good idea, thanks.
jm4 17y ago
1) The name is awful. I don't have a nice way to say it. I'm sorry. Assuming people like the app how are they going to spread the word? The name can't be pronounced without sounding like a person who is possessed. 2) Why would someone use this? Right off the bat I don't get why I should use this instead of email. In order to start a discussion I need to know the email addresses of the initial participants whereas newsgroup or mailing list posts go out to hundreds or thousands of people I may or may not know ahead of time. If I need to know exactly who's going to be involved from the start it's easier to use my mail client. I understand that the discussion can be made public on here, but what's the point? Sure, you don't need a newsgroup already set up, but a newsgroup is also a good starting point for someone looking for discussions about a particular topic. I just don't understand what need this is fulfilling. This needs to be made clear on the front page so potential users don't navigate away 15 seconds after landing on it with the impression that this is a reinvention of the wheel. [edit] There's a small grammatical error on the About page. "Discuss any topic with lot's of people right now and waste no time for registration." should be "Discuss any topic with lots of people right now and waste no time for registration." "Lots" is plural; "lot's" is possessive.
- Adlai 17y ago
  I think the idea is to track discussions through email as threads, rather than just a long list of messages. That said, you bring up a valid point about reinventing the wheel -- GMail does this already with conversations. So this app would need something more. One idea off the top of my head is to enable people to participate in a discussion using an account on the site, rather than through email. Maybe also allowing people to comment on public discussions, but giving their comments a lower priority (along the lines of HN's prioritizing of comments).
erikwiffin 17y ago
I think you're on to something here. At work, a short comment in an email can very quickly build up into a large and complicated discussion. Lots of branching, occasionally hitting reply instead of reply-all, really a nasty mess. Part of the problem could be that I'm used to gmail and at work I have to use outlook, but I digress. I think it would be really cool if once an email conversation kicks off, if I could send the entire thing to a resubj email address, and have it automatically build up the conversation up to that point. Then, the conversation could continue in resubj. If you implement this, or it is already in place and I missed it, let me know and I will start using your service immediately. edit: also, if you set up some kind of api so that I could embed conversations on other websites, that would be kinda cool.
- snitko 17y ago
  I'n not sure about building up a conversation up to the point. Could you be more specific? API is a good idea and it is in TODO list, but not a number one priority.
  - Adlai 17y ago
    I think he means reconstructing a conversation by looking at quoted text (all the "On XYZ day, Joe Shmoe said:" stuff). If one person had been getting all the reply-alls of a conversation, he could create a discussion on your site, and forward a few of the emails. Your site would then reconstruct the quoted conversations. It's quite a fuzzily-defined feature, because people don't always quote entire messages, they can change messages, and the characters used to mark off quoted text vary between email clients. However, it would be a cool feature to implement, maybe as an optional thing.

6 points by snitko 17y ago

http://resubj.com

Adlai 17y ago

I like the idea. I just made a quick test (visible here: http://www.resubj.com/inboxes/1152 http://www.resubj.com/inboxes/1152) to look at the code formatting. The formatting looks great for Ruby, but not-so-much for Lisp. Not a huge issue, but maybe when somebody clicks the programmer? link, it'll show a list of supported languages. The email that I got was in plain text. Maybe there could be an option when creating the message to send the emails with formatting? That way, if you know that your friends can see formatted emails, you can send properly colored code. Comment posting is very quick. When I sent in a comment through email, it took about half a minute for the comment to show up -- but I guess that's to be expected. So, my general verdict: I like the idea. However, I think that for it to appeal to non-hackers, it should support formatting. It could even be something simple, like the italics supported by HN.

snitko 17y ago
Thank you for your reply. Emailing comments is probably that slow because we haven't optimized the emails queue (that's coming). Sending emails in HTML is a big question to me. I believe that people who would prefer HTML emails to plaintext ones would also prefer web-interface to email-client when posting new comments. What do you think?
- Adlai 17y ago
  I'm not sure about that question. Another improvement you could make to the code display is to display the language in which the code is written.
  - snitko 17y ago
    Good idea, thanks.

jm4 17y ago

1) The name is awful. I don't have a nice way to say it. I'm sorry. Assuming people like the app how are they going to spread the word? The name can't be pronounced without sounding like a person who is possessed. 2) Why would someone use this? Right off the bat I don't get why I should use this instead of email. In order to start a discussion I need to know the email addresses of the initial participants whereas newsgroup or mailing list posts go out to hundreds or thousands of people I may or may not know ahead of time. If I need to know exactly who's going to be involved from the start it's easier to use my mail client. I understand that the discussion can be made public on here, but what's the point? Sure, you don't need a newsgroup already set up, but a newsgroup is also a good starting point for someone looking for discussions about a particular topic. I just don't understand what need this is fulfilling. This needs to be made clear on the front page so potential users don't navigate away 15 seconds after landing on it with the impression that this is a reinvention of the wheel. [edit] There's a small grammatical error on the About page. "Discuss any topic with lot's of people right now and waste no time for registration." should be "Discuss any topic with lots of people right now and waste no time for registration." "Lots" is plural; "lot's" is possessive.

Adlai 17y ago
I think the idea is to track discussions through email as threads, rather than just a long list of messages. That said, you bring up a valid point about reinventing the wheel -- GMail does this already with conversations. So this app would need something more. One idea off the top of my head is to enable people to participate in a discussion using an account on the site, rather than through email. Maybe also allowing people to comment on public discussions, but giving their comments a lower priority (along the lines of HN's prioritizing of comments).

erikwiffin 17y ago

I think you're on to something here. At work, a short comment in an email can very quickly build up into a large and complicated discussion. Lots of branching, occasionally hitting reply instead of reply-all, really a nasty mess. Part of the problem could be that I'm used to gmail and at work I have to use outlook, but I digress. I think it would be really cool if once an email conversation kicks off, if I could send the entire thing to a resubj email address, and have it automatically build up the conversation up to that point. Then, the conversation could continue in resubj. If you implement this, or it is already in place and I missed it, let me know and I will start using your service immediately. edit: also, if you set up some kind of api so that I could embed conversations on other websites, that would be kinda cool.

snitko 17y ago
I'n not sure about building up a conversation up to the point. Could you be more specific? API is a good idea and it is in TODO list, but not a number one priority.
- Adlai 17y ago
  I think he means reconstructing a conversation by looking at quoted text (all the "On XYZ day, Joe Shmoe said:" stuff). If one person had been getting all the reply-alls of a conversation, he could create a discussion on your site, and forward a few of the emails. Your site would then reconstruct the quoted conversations. It's quite a fuzzily-defined feature, because people don't always quote entire messages, they can change messages, and the characters used to mark off quoted text vary between email clients. However, it would be a cool feature to implement, maybe as an optional thing.