seen this before. whilst its great there are degrees of respect to have for C and C++. the most productive code i have ever written generally involves me worki

seen this before. whilst its great there are degrees of respect to have for C and C++. the most productive code i have ever written generally involves me working around the constraints of the language to implement a paradigm which is missing at compile-time, or juggling macros and templates so that i can reduce boilerplate code down to a template with a macro to fill the gaps the template is too featureless to give me (vice versa, the template is there because macros aren't complete enough either). its good to understand this deep language stuff though because you can understand why C/C++ are limited. for instance the C sequence points limit the compiler in its ability to perform optimisation, as do struct layout rules and many of the other weird and wonderful specifics... what saddens me most though is that nobody has offered anything to improve C and C++ in these areas which matter most to me... its not even hard. just let the compiler order structs because most programmers don't understand struct layout rules. its not a good thing that these things are so explicitly specified for the language - its gimping the compilers, which is limiting me. also it results in pointless interview questions about sequence points.. :P