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This whole autism-geek connection is a useless myth. I have a son with autism, and we know a lot of parents with autism. Parents come from every income range, s

This whole autism-geek connection is a useless myth. I have a son with autism, and we know a lot of parents with autism. Parents come from every income range, social class, profession and "geek orientation". And contrary to another myth, most autistic kids (the vast majority) have no savant skills. It is a disease. The ones who recover do tell how they felt trapped inside. For those of you who have young children or planning to have children, here is a suggestion: investigate just how many vaccines we are giving kids these days, and compare that to how many were given 25-30 years ago. Educate yourself - I wish I had. I trusted the "system" implicitly, without realizing that the average doctor and certainly the average pediatrician is an unthinking protocol pusher. The average pediatricians typical workload could be automated. Enough said.

emmett 17y ago
For those of you who have young children or planning to have children, here is a suggestion: investigate just how many cellphones we carry around these days, and compare that to how many were around 25-30 years ago.
- asciilifeform 17y ago
  > investigate just how many cellphones we carry Or how many pirates there are on the high seas. The connection between any kind of background EM and any human disease was discredited many years ago (and in fact was proposed by one specific crackpot.)
menloparkbum 17y ago
How many vaccines do kids get these days vs. how many were given 30 years ago?
trapper 17y ago
Seriously, while I feel for you, get the facts. There is no evidence linking autism to vaccines. While dosing frequency has increased, dosing volume has decreased. Not only that, even if you are right, a lot more kids would die from the vaccinated diseases if we lose herd immunity as a whole. Don't you find it the least bit suspicious that the only people who "figured out" this mystery are quacks with books and supplements to sell? Isn't it much more likely to be caused by our terrible food, chemical-laced water or other modern issues like proximity to high-strength EM?
- sridharvembu 17y ago
  For your information, the government recently legally conceded a case of autism-vaccine connection where the parents (both medical professionals) had a perfect record of their daughter's medical history. Keep down-voting me; but if you have a kid, please, please investigate this before you accept conventional wisdom.
  - trapper 17y ago
    I know both sides. I have a friend who is one of the greatest proponents of alternative medicine treatments of autism. Both my children have been vaccinated. http://www.babble.com.au/2009/02/24/bad-science-how-the-autism-vaccine-scare-snowballed/ http://www.babble.com.au/2009/02/24/bad-science-how-the-auti... I shouldn't have to explain how a legal ruling doesn't equal evidence. Scientific proof is demonstrated using repeatable studies, which have been done. Go look them up. There is no validated mechanism by which vaccines cause autism. At the moment, my money would be on things like genes (highly likely) or environmental contaminants. But, it's just speculation. We just don't know at the moment. This may be hard to accept as a parent, but it's the reality.

emmett 17y ago

For those of you who have young children or planning to have children, here is a suggestion: investigate just how many cellphones we carry around these days, and compare that to how many were around 25-30 years ago.

asciilifeform 17y ago
> investigate just how many cellphones we carry Or how many pirates there are on the high seas. The connection between any kind of background EM and any human disease was discredited many years ago (and in fact was proposed by one specific crackpot.)

menloparkbum 17y ago

How many vaccines do kids get these days vs. how many were given 30 years ago?

trapper 17y ago

Seriously, while I feel for you, get the facts. There is no evidence linking autism to vaccines. While dosing frequency has increased, dosing volume has decreased. Not only that, even if you are right, a lot more kids would die from the vaccinated diseases if we lose herd immunity as a whole. Don't you find it the least bit suspicious that the only people who "figured out" this mystery are quacks with books and supplements to sell? Isn't it much more likely to be caused by our terrible food, chemical-laced water or other modern issues like proximity to high-strength EM?

sridharvembu 17y ago
For your information, the government recently legally conceded a case of autism-vaccine connection where the parents (both medical professionals) had a perfect record of their daughter's medical history. Keep down-voting me; but if you have a kid, please, please investigate this before you accept conventional wisdom.
- trapper 17y ago
  I know both sides. I have a friend who is one of the greatest proponents of alternative medicine treatments of autism. Both my children have been vaccinated. http://www.babble.com.au/2009/02/24/bad-science-how-the-autism-vaccine-scare-snowballed/ http://www.babble.com.au/2009/02/24/bad-science-how-the-auti... I shouldn't have to explain how a legal ruling doesn't equal evidence. Scientific proof is demonstrated using repeatable studies, which have been done. Go look them up. There is no validated mechanism by which vaccines cause autism. At the moment, my money would be on things like genes (highly likely) or environmental contaminants. But, it's just speculation. We just don't know at the moment. This may be hard to accept as a parent, but it's the reality.